[Redway]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I stand by what I said; someone who is overweight doesn't "not know" that they're overweight, and certainly someone who is obese (as you say obesity is a diagnosis - which is not the same as overweight) knows that their weight is "not healthy". The only reason a doctor needs to mention it, is to tell them that it's affecting their health in a specific way (e.g. diabetes, their joints, heart, high blood pressure, fatty organs) or to make sure that they're aware that it puts them at higher risk of those things.

It’s a catch-22 situation when someone needs the medication to control their symptoms of some health problem or other but the medication makes them gain too much weight, which isn’t ideal if they’re already overweight or st least close to it. Sometimes it’s more the inverse of what you’re talking about and it’s having those conditions in the first place that put them at higher risk of being overweight, because medication can cause that side-effect.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

This sign was posted outside the bathroom at a rec center in Australia. Yes, this is real.

Conor McGregor's making a flight to Australia as we speak.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Beso]

What toilet do non binary people use?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

What toilet do non binary people use?

Same as Amazon Prime drivers ?

[Cherie]

Its not about bathrooms

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its not about bathrooms

I still wanna know.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Beso

I still wanna know.

The law states that there are two sexes, male and female, non binary does not exist

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The law states that there are two sexes, male and female, non binary does not exist

There's gonna be a lot of disgruntled ***** happening in the years to come.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The law states that there are two sexes, male and female, non binary does not exist

It doesn't exist for legal purposes which is not the same thing as it not existing in concept; people can still have a gender identity that differs from their biological sex if that's how they choose to live, they just won't be able to claim it as their sex for legal purposes.

In terms of bathrooms I think it's going to get very complicated, in a way that it wasn't 10 years ago, and really never had to be.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

It doesn't exist for legal purposes which is not the same thing as it not existing in concept; people can still have a gender identity that differs from their biological sex if that's how they choose to live, they just won't be able to claim it as their sex for legal purposes.

In terms of bathrooms I think it's going to get very complicated, in a way that it wasn't 10 years ago, and really never had to be.

This is where it all starts to untangle. People will feel they have new powers. **** will go down, so to speak!

I'm feeling empathy I never knew I had today.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Beso

This is where it all starts to untangle. People will feel they have new powers. **** will go down, so to speak!

I'm feeling empathy I never knew I had today.

What people, you mean women? ....what **** will go down in your opinion? what new powers do woman have that they have not had since the 70s i.e the right to have women only spaces ....

Can I also say this issue has been caused by MEN ....as per

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

It doesn't exist for legal purposes which is not the same thing as it not existing in concept; people can still have a gender identity that differs from their biological sex if that's how they choose to live, they just won't be able to claim it as their sex for legal purposes.

In terms of bathrooms I think it's going to get very complicated, in a way that it wasn't 10 years ago, and really never had to be.

Its not complicated at all... just use a bit of common sense, also my point was for legal purposes, if people want to present as an aeroplane nobody can stop them, it just wont be recognised in law

[caprimint]

How is he a doctor and not in the mental asylum

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What people, you mean women? ....what **** will go down in your opinion? what new powers do woman have that they have not had since the 70s i.e the right to have women only spaces ....

Can I also say this issue has been caused by MEN ....as per

I reckon MEN will feel like they have new powers if a man dressed as a woman is sharing their toilets. I pity any9ne brave enough to go on a night out in the pubs up and down the country cause the abuse they will get now in the toilets will be shamefull.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

I reckon MEN will feel like they have new powers if a man dressed as a woman is sharing their toilets. I pity any9ne brave enough to go on a night out in the pubs up and down the country cause the abuse they will get now in the toilets will be shamefull.

Are these Guardian Angels still around ??

If so maybe they or some group like them could patrol the public toilets and surrounding areas ?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Beso

I reckon MEN will feel like they have new powers if a man dressed as a woman is sharing their toilets. I pity any9ne brave enough to go on a night out in the pubs up and down the country cause the abuse they will get now in the toilets will be shamefull.

Parmy you know this will not happen, for a start gender neutral toilets will gradually be made available and if they are not the disabled facilities are there, no self respecting transwoman would use the MENs yuk In time there will be no Urinals and that is not a bad think stinky horrible places

[Crimson Dynamo]

An absolute joy to meet my constituent - and my hero - Sandie Peggie at ⁦
@scotParl
⁩ today. Cannot admire this brave woman enough, & determined to do all I can to stand up for her and others’ rights ⁦
@nhsfife
⁩ ⁦
@SexMattersOrg



Murdo Fraser Conservative MSP
@murdo_fraser

[Crimson Dynamo]

Both John Swinney and Kate Forbes (SNP) snubbed the chance to meet with
Sandie Peggie on Wednesday as the nurse attended Holyrood.



Sandie Peggie stood up for women’s rights & lost her job. This week she walked into Holyrood—John Swinney & Kate Forbes ran the other way.

Too spineless to face a nurse punished for saying no to men in female spaces.

Utter contempt for women.

[Alf]

Blue pills, Acid tabs and Mary Joanna have a lot to answer for.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Parmy you know this will not happen, for a start gender neutral toilets will gradually be made available and if they are not the disabled facilities are there, no self respecting transwoman would use the MENs yuk In time there will be no Urinals and that is not a bad think stinky horrible places

Transwomen told to use the disabled toilets if we were worried. What's wrong with them doing that? Unless that advice was spurious in the first place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why is the NHS spending hundreds of thousands of pounds attacking women?

The woke gender cult’s witch hunt of nurse Sandie Peggie is a taxpayer-funded
farce



On Wednesday, the Sandie Peggie tribunal resumes. This is the case of the nurse who said no.

Peggie, a nurse with three decades of experience at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy, found herself having to share a changing room with a biological male: the transgender doctor Beth Upton.

She had gone into a hospital changing room after experiencing heavy menstrual bleeding, saw Upton there, and felt so uncomfortable that she spoke up. Exactly what Peggie said is disputed, but it’s claimed she told Upton that “a man couldn’t be in the changing room”.

This happened in December 2023. Upton had begun transitioning in 2022 but claimed to be both “distressed” and “afraid”. If you’ve ever been physically assaulted or intimidated, you’ll know what it’s like to truly feel that way. But Peggie is small – and Upton is certainly not.

Nonetheless, Peggie was suspended by her managers and faced a disciplinary hearing. Somehow, in these cases, it’s always the woman who says no who ends up being portrayed as threatening and bullying. The gender cult demands unquestioning acceptance of the idea that trans people are always victims.

After some months, Peggie was allowed to return to work, but only with restrictions. NHS Fife refused to guarantee that the changing room would be reserved for biological women.

In May 2024, Peggie decided to take her case to an employment tribunal, claiming she had been subjected to sexual harassment, belief discrimination and victimisation by both NHS Fife and Dr Upton.

NHS Fife wanted to keep this quiet. Understandably. They sought to keep Upton anonymous and have the upcoming hearing held in private. Neither of these things happened, which is just as well, because what’s being exposed is a muddle of mismanagement and deep stupidity.

The board of NHS Fife also did not want to disclose how much this has all cost, but they have been forced to: £220,000 up until the adjournment in February. Another 11 days of hearings could push costs up towards £1 million. The taxpayer, remember, is paying for both Upton’s and NHS Fife’s defence.

The board itself is now under scrutiny: even an SNP politician, Carol Potter, is breaking ranks on the gender dogma and saying heads should roll. Lest we forget, the SNP was the party whose (unsuccessful) fight with the campaign group For Women Scotland led to the landmark Supreme Court ruling that “sex” as defined in the Equality Act means “sex at birth”.

This is the level of madness we have reached – where individual women take on public bodies that seem to have no conception of women’s rights. A nurse wanting to change in a single-sex space is something most people would see as reasonable, not because they are “transphobic,” but because, until recently, there was some respect for female privacy.

At the heart of this case is a story about class and male entitlement, albeit dressed up in medical garb. Peggie is upending the medical hierarchy as a nurse standing up to a doctor. She is doing so in a place where trans mania peaked under Nicola Sturgeon. Trans mania dictated that she should, as women are always told to do, simply put up with it.

Whenever women have said there is sometimes a conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, many in power have repeatedly told us this is not the case.

We have been patronised with the phrase “rights are not a pie” – ie, rights are not a finite resource, and that adding rights to one group doesn’t mean taking away from another. Yet sometimes rights are a pie, and in terms of physical space this is self-evident.

We can solve these problems by having men’s, women’s and gender-neutral changing rooms. This would actually give someone like Upton a choice of two spaces to change in (men’s and gender neutral), and protect the rights of women to be in a single-sex environment.

A current row over the Ladies’ Pond at Hampstead in London also brings this issue into sharp focus and illustrates how public bodies still believe they can ignore the Supreme Court ruling.

There are three ponds at Hampstead: Men’s, Women’s and Mixed. But men who identify as women have been using the women’s pond. The policy of the City of London Corporation, which runs the bathing spots, is that anyone who thinks they are a woman can use the pool.

Some women don’t care about this, but some do. What is incredible is that this in effect means giving men access to all three ponds. Isn’t two enough?

Now, the campaign group Sex Matters has announced it is making a £50,000 legal claim against the local authority, in light of the Supreme Court ruling.

Currently, we are in a situation where many of our institutions are so immersed in gender ideology that they cannot respond to the actual needs of women. Or, indeed, correctly and swiftly interpret the law.

This immersion, though, was never organic – it did not come from a place of wanting fairness for everyone. If it did, I would support it.

The truth is that it has been imposed from on high as a response to intense lobbying and acquiescence to activist demands.

One can see this particularly in the case of the BBC, whose top brass started taking meetings with Stonewall activists in 2012. Everyone was sold on the idea of trans rights being the new civil rights and a symbol of being cutting edge.

This is how the full-scale abandonment of both women’s rights and any notion of safeguarding has been enacted by supposedly progressive institutions – in the name of some non-specific idea of modernity. It has been appalling.

And where do we end up? With public money being spent to fight a working-class nurse who doesn’t want to get undressed in front of a man? How is this right?

The emperor is naked. We have long known that. Let him parade his nakedness in his own special cubicle. Get out of ours!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...suzanne-moore/

[Cherie]

and here is another one

Jennifer Melle, from Croydon, was disciplined by Epsom and St Helier University Hospital Trust when she declined to use female pronouns for a convicted paedophile

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-b1218290.html

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

and here is another one

Jennifer Melle, from Croydon, was disciplined by Epsom and St Helier University Hospital Trust when she declined to use female pronouns for a convicted paedophile

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-b1218290.html

I've got to be honest here.

Well done Jennifer, Paedophiles deserve no respect.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sandie Peggie cleared of gross misconduct allegations

NHS Fife has cleared the nurse at the centre of a high-profile tribunal case of all disciplinary charges.