[arista]

Originally Posted by Beso

They marched them up to the top of the hill, and they marched them down again.


https://youtu.be/rfMEeOTg4Ms?si=4DJRl3hIdVJHV0G5


Even bussed them out at the end.

Yes, Councillor Jaymey McIvor
from the next near council
was there talking towards the end
of the video
He is Reform UK.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bots

the good people of epping should respect the law and use the proper lawful procedures at their disposal.

You do realise if this type of behaviour takes hold, law breaks down, and then everyone suffers. I really can't believe what i am reading here.

It sounds like, let you kids be assaulted, stay home, say nothing. The rights of the "asylum seekers" are greater than yours. The police will back them.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Livia

It sounds like, let you kids be assaulted, stay home, say nothing. The rights of the "asylum seekers" are greater than yours. The police will back them.

it doesn't sound like that at all. What i'm hearing is someone that that doesn't respect the law of the land, and quite frankly, it is you that deserves to be locked up

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Beso

They marched them up to the top of the hill, and they marched them down again.


https://youtu.be/rfMEeOTg4Ms?si=4DJRl3hIdVJHV0G5


Even bussed them out at the end.

okay so I am only 12 minutes in but some off the counter protesters seem to be professional trouble makers, like the guy who the film maker met at the trans rights demo following him around and harrassing him....nice...but now he has a face mask on, .also the guy from Walthamstow took off when asked about the reason for the protest .ie the guy who has been charged with sexual assault, didn't want to talk about the reason, I dont agree with attacking the police or attacking anyone but the protest was pretty peaceful until the counter protesters arrived

[Cherie]

Putin and Iran must be looking at what is going on with glee

Has Starmer come out yet and called the peaceful protesters 'far right'

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Putin and Iran must be looking at what is going on with glee

Has Starmer come out yet and called the peaceful protesters 'far right'

No
PM is avoiding this

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Was it only yesterday you were accusing Livia of getting personal and that it was against the rules?

Yep, because both things were true, I’m just telling the truth based on her pattern of behaviour, besides, she constantly gets away with doing it so why not join in on the fun

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

No
PM is avoiding this

lol bit hard to back a paedo I suppose

[Liam-]

Yes, peaceful protesters were attacking the police, very peaceful, very concerned

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yes, peaceful protesters were attacking the police, very peaceful, very concerned

They was some pushing and shoving when the police let the counter protesters walk towards them, before that they were just milling around holding signs, there will always be an element who are only there to cause trouble, we shouldn't tar all with the same brush...remember

[Liam-]

Always everybody else’s fault but the thugs attacking people, it’s okay to be thugs as long as the thugs are white and targeting minorities

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bots

it doesn't sound like that at all. What i'm hearing is someone that that doesn't respect the law of the land, and quite frankly, it is you that deserves to be locked up

I see. Thanks for that.

[Vanessa]

I'm not surprised at all at the protests. People have had enough. I'm not anti immigration, but really against the violent ones. When are they going to start checking these people backgrounds?
We could be letting in all sorts of criminals if they don't check.

[Vanessa]

I'm all for Reform. Bring it on and I hope they win the next elections.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm all for Reform. Bring it on and I hope they win the next elections.

I feel sure they will. People are sick of it.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not surprised at all at the protests. People have had enough. I'm not anti immigration, but really against the violent ones. When are they going to start checking these people backgrounds?
We could be letting in all sorts of criminals if they don't check.

Doesn’t like violent people but fully supports violent thugs attacking minorities and police, no surprises who you support

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

I feel sure they will. People are sick of it.

I have faith in them. Hopefully they will listen to the people.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Doesn’t like violent people but fully supports violent thugs attacking minorities and police, no surprises who you support

I don't. I think anyone who is violent should face the consequences. Anyone.

[Vanessa]

People have the right to protest peacefully. Those who cross the line will be dealt with.

[Liam-]

What was peaceful about multiple nights of these thugs attacking the police and assaulting random, innocent people purely because of the colour of their skin?

This is what reform supporters want and now it’s happening, like during the farage riots in Southport, it’s on people who purposefully whip up hatred towards minorities

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

What was peaceful about multiple nights of these thugs attacking the police and assaulting random, innocent people purely because of the colour of their skin?

This is what reform supporters want and now it’s happening, like during the farage riots in Southport, it’s on people who purposefully whip up hatred towards minorities

I really have to say I agree with your stance here.

I've personally more stopped entering serious debates on here because it's far from being serious debates or any even reasoned debate.
It's just becoming a platform for more divisive in the main Reform Party viewpoint to be stoked up.
So it's best I avoid political issues on TIBB now

People dare not say anything about Israel or it's forces otherwise they're branded anti semetic
Which is a despicable accusation to fire out to other members.
Or in fact to anyone we don't know.
Yet it's almost being fired out like confetti.
Which is absolutely out of order to accuse others of being antisemitic

I've had it on and off for years, since 2016, simply because I supported Labour even during the time of Corbyn's leadership.

So I see no point in even trying to reason or post now on near all serious debates.

However supporting law breaking is both surprising and wrong
So looking in on this thread, just sighing and scratching my head at the Reform Party being presented as anything of any morals.
Certainly nothing moral about its only main anti immigration rhetoric.
So I just wanted to express agreement with yourself, (putting a crash helmet on as to the abuse that may possibly be levelled from Reform Party sympathisers), on this very sad and worrying situation of these awful events and lawbreaking in this area currently.

[Livia]

While I agree that the protest of ordinary people has been hijacked by thugs so that now ALL the protesters are tarred with the same brush, it makes me smile when I see people wringing their hands, moaning about Reform and saying NOT A WORD about the fact that this was all kicked off by yet another instance where someone here only 8 days, assaulted a schoolgirl. And it's not an isolated incident.

All that while overlooking the usual racist.posts from Liam.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

This is what reform supporters want

How on God's green earth do you know what Reform voters want?

incredible statement

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

While I agree that the protest of ordinary people has been hijacked by thugs so that now ALL the protesters are tarred with the same brush, it makes me smile when I see people wringing their hands, moaning about Reform and saying NOT A WORD about the fact that this was all kicked off by yet another instance where someone here only 8 days, assaulted a schoolgirl. And it's not an isolated incident.

All that while overlooking the usual racist.posts from Liam.

and the fact you have people protesting about people protesting about a sexual assault on a child

and people on here are supporting that??



astounding

[Ninastar]

It reminds me of a time where I was on a local fb group and a young girl was warning others that she was being harassed by some guy in Leeds and wanted to warn others to be careful as he would not leave her alone.

She said that he was from Pakistan (maybe Afghanistan, I can’t remember it’s been over 10 years) and immediately people were like

YOURE BEING RACIST! WHY DOES IT MATTER WHERE HES FROM? HOW DO YOU KNOW THATS WHERE HES FROM? ANY EXCUSE TO HATE ON SOMEONE OF COLOUR etc etc

This girl was attacked relentlessly. She mentioned that he told her that’s where he was from and people were still furious. I felt so bad for her. She was only trying to warn other young girls/women that there was a guy who would not leave her alone/was following her etc

And I think that at the end of the day, people don’t realise that most women think that any man who doesn’t back down when they keep saying no no not interested, I have a boyfriend etc etc, think that they are going to end up being raped or assaulted by said male

Some cultures treat women horrifically. That is a fact. Most of these migrant men who are coming into the country are from these backwards countries that despise women (and the LGBT). They didn’t respect the women in their countries ans they certainly won’t respect them here. I actually think they have even less respect for British women (they see them as sluts/impure/unworthy of marriage/only to be used for sex (when and only when the men want it.

People are not wrong in saying that there are racist ***** who are taking advantage of a protest to scream their idiotic racial hate. But let’s not pretend that most protests have people using them as an excuse to commit crimes (London riots looting, BLM destroying black owned business etc etc)

I think essentially all points can be true. There ARE people who are furious that this is happening to the vulnerable in our society. There ARE also people who are using this just to hate on brown people for no reason. Both are true. But at the end of the day, surely the focus should be on the underage girl (I actually believe there were 2 in this case) and what we can do to stop it from ever happening again

Because the truth is this isn’t just a one time thing. It is constant and again, I don’t think people understand the scale on which these attacks are happening.

I know there was the Rotherham or Rochdale or something that states with R scandal. But it’s still happening constantly

I totally understand wanting to help people from war torn countries, especially when we are the ones who caused it. But letting in thousands and thousands of undocumented men is just not a good idea for anyone. And again, I want to know where the women and kids are? Why aren’t we keeping them safe? Why can’t we open our arms to them instead of the thousands of able bodied men?