[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm all for Reform. Bring it on and I hope they win the next elections.

I feel sure they will. People are sick of it.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not surprised at all at the protests. People have had enough. I'm not anti immigration, but really against the violent ones. When are they going to start checking these people backgrounds?
We could be letting in all sorts of criminals if they don't check.

Doesn’t like violent people but fully supports violent thugs attacking minorities and police, no surprises who you support

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

I feel sure they will. People are sick of it.

I have faith in them. Hopefully they will listen to the people.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Doesn’t like violent people but fully supports violent thugs attacking minorities and police, no surprises who you support

I don't. I think anyone who is violent should face the consequences. Anyone.

[Vanessa]

People have the right to protest peacefully. Those who cross the line will be dealt with.

[Liam-]

What was peaceful about multiple nights of these thugs attacking the police and assaulting random, innocent people purely because of the colour of their skin?

This is what reform supporters want and now it’s happening, like during the farage riots in Southport, it’s on people who purposefully whip up hatred towards minorities

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

What was peaceful about multiple nights of these thugs attacking the police and assaulting random, innocent people purely because of the colour of their skin?

This is what reform supporters want and now it’s happening, like during the farage riots in Southport, it’s on people who purposefully whip up hatred towards minorities

I really have to say I agree with your stance here.

I've personally more stopped entering serious debates on here because it's far from being serious debates or any even reasoned debate.
It's just becoming a platform for more divisive in the main Reform Party viewpoint to be stoked up.
So it's best I avoid political issues on TIBB now

People dare not say anything about Israel or it's forces otherwise they're branded anti semetic
Which is a despicable accusation to fire out to other members.
Or in fact to anyone we don't know.
Yet it's almost being fired out like confetti.
Which is absolutely out of order to accuse others of being antisemitic

I've had it on and off for years, since 2016, simply because I supported Labour even during the time of Corbyn's leadership.

So I see no point in even trying to reason or post now on near all serious debates.

However supporting law breaking is both surprising and wrong
So looking in on this thread, just sighing and scratching my head at the Reform Party being presented as anything of any morals.
Certainly nothing moral about its only main anti immigration rhetoric.
So I just wanted to express agreement with yourself, (putting a crash helmet on as to the abuse that may possibly be levelled from Reform Party sympathisers), on this very sad and worrying situation of these awful events and lawbreaking in this area currently.

[Livia]

While I agree that the protest of ordinary people has been hijacked by thugs so that now ALL the protesters are tarred with the same brush, it makes me smile when I see people wringing their hands, moaning about Reform and saying NOT A WORD about the fact that this was all kicked off by yet another instance where someone here only 8 days, assaulted a schoolgirl. And it's not an isolated incident.

All that while overlooking the usual racist.posts from Liam.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

This is what reform supporters want

How on God's green earth do you know what Reform voters want?

incredible statement

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

While I agree that the protest of ordinary people has been hijacked by thugs so that now ALL the protesters are tarred with the same brush, it makes me smile when I see people wringing their hands, moaning about Reform and saying NOT A WORD about the fact that this was all kicked off by yet another instance where someone here only 8 days, assaulted a schoolgirl. And it's not an isolated incident.

All that while overlooking the usual racist.posts from Liam.

and the fact you have people protesting about people protesting about a sexual assault on a child

and people on here are supporting that??



astounding

[Ninastar]

It reminds me of a time where I was on a local fb group and a young girl was warning others that she was being harassed by some guy in Leeds and wanted to warn others to be careful as he would not leave her alone.

She said that he was from Pakistan (maybe Afghanistan, I can’t remember it’s been over 10 years) and immediately people were like

YOURE BEING RACIST! WHY DOES IT MATTER WHERE HES FROM? HOW DO YOU KNOW THATS WHERE HES FROM? ANY EXCUSE TO HATE ON SOMEONE OF COLOUR etc etc

This girl was attacked relentlessly. She mentioned that he told her that’s where he was from and people were still furious. I felt so bad for her. She was only trying to warn other young girls/women that there was a guy who would not leave her alone/was following her etc

And I think that at the end of the day, people don’t realise that most women think that any man who doesn’t back down when they keep saying no no not interested, I have a boyfriend etc etc, think that they are going to end up being raped or assaulted by said male

Some cultures treat women horrifically. That is a fact. Most of these migrant men who are coming into the country are from these backwards countries that despise women (and the LGBT). They didn’t respect the women in their countries ans they certainly won’t respect them here. I actually think they have even less respect for British women (they see them as sluts/impure/unworthy of marriage/only to be used for sex (when and only when the men want it.

People are not wrong in saying that there are racist ***** who are taking advantage of a protest to scream their idiotic racial hate. But let’s not pretend that most protests have people using them as an excuse to commit crimes (London riots looting, BLM destroying black owned business etc etc)

I think essentially all points can be true. There ARE people who are furious that this is happening to the vulnerable in our society. There ARE also people who are using this just to hate on brown people for no reason. Both are true. But at the end of the day, surely the focus should be on the underage girl (I actually believe there were 2 in this case) and what we can do to stop it from ever happening again

Because the truth is this isn’t just a one time thing. It is constant and again, I don’t think people understand the scale on which these attacks are happening.

I know there was the Rotherham or Rochdale or something that states with R scandal. But it’s still happening constantly

I totally understand wanting to help people from war torn countries, especially when we are the ones who caused it. But letting in thousands and thousands of undocumented men is just not a good idea for anyone. And again, I want to know where the women and kids are? Why aren’t we keeping them safe? Why can’t we open our arms to them instead of the thousands of able bodied men?

[Ninastar]

Holy **** I am sorry for the essay

[Beso]

When the police facilitate outsiders to come to to your town and call you racist whilst you are protesting about a hotel housing illegal immigrants, where one of them has tried it on with a very young girl, you are obviously going to get an angry response.

The fact it's about kiddie fiddling makes it a just response. Of course some on here denounce any violence and don't see that there should ever be a reas9n to become violent.. unfortunately when it comes to kiddie fiddling, as this is what the protest was about until the police allowed it's disruption, when it comes to kiddie fiddling the majority of the public would and should be acceptable to violence towards the perpetratuer.

He wasn't around, so the police got it for facilitating the disruption of the peacefully process.


Simple human nature, and one to be proud of if you ask me.

[Beso]

Live tonight..

https://www.youtube.com/live/7aflVRi...rSPvR1SyufHLNv

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Holy **** I am sorry for the essay

It was great, very eloquent.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Youtube video

Shocking video

of people standing around peacefully protesting

putting illegals into hotels has failed, find an alternative, we have all these brilliant minds in government apparently who cant come up with a solution..the solution is not to put them in the middle of towns next to schools so your mates get their money for hotels and cheap labour

[Cherie]

6 arrests overnight, its done now, as usual these protest turn to shiz as outsiders latch on

[Cherie]

Nick Ferrari reported this morning that Essex police thanked the protesters on Thursday for peaceful protest, not been able to find any of this online naturally.....

[Beso]

4 arrests on Sunday for violence on the Thursday, 2 arrested for damaging a police car.

One anti racism protestor who infiltrated the protest not arrested to prevent a breach of the peace like we have seen happen to pro Israelis at the pro Palestinian marches. Instead she was allowed to walk right into the middle of the protest to spew her views about the migrants towards some already het up mothers, before being ushered back down the road protected by about 100 officers..straight past the BBC cameras of course.

[Liam-]

There were actual full on Nazis there handing out fliers last night, yet more concerned local parents

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If only people complained about you everytime you abused a member of this forum.

If the truth about your own behaviour is offensive, then maybe you should change your behaviour.

You've been allowed to carry on your anti-Semitic insults at me and are supported by the forum's admin. They must agree with you.

[Liam-]

I’ve asked you many times now to point out these supposed antisemitic remarks and you’ve consistently failed to do so, just accept that your lies aren’t effective anymore because people can see exactly what you’re about

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Liam-

There were actual full on Nazis there handing out fliers last night, yet more concerned local parents

There were 2 men dressed in brown shirts offering whites first propaganda leaflets.. they got the short sharp shrift from the protestor. Like your claim about the young lad in an earlier post...he was being challlenged fir being there, just like thede 2 were....not by the police, but by the locals

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I’ve asked you many times now to point out these supposed antisemitic remarks and you’ve consistently failed to do so, just accept that your lies aren’t effective anymore because people can see exactly what you’re about

You don't need to be told how not to be islamaphobic, but you do for being anti-Semitic? You just don't like me and your racism against me feels justified to you and what's worse, it's being supported. Why did you bring up the fact I'm Jewish on this thread that has nothing to do with Jews? Go read you posts on the anti-Semitism thread where you don't differentiate between Jews and Israelis. You're the worst kind of racist, one who doesn't believe he is.

I'll leave you to continue your campaign, I can't bear to talk to you anymore.