[Crimson Dynamo]

Investigation launched as France’s Right-wing condemns cancellation as
‘submitting to Islamist ideology’




Threats from young Muslims have forced a Paris suburb to cancel an open-air
screening of the Barbie movie, prompting prosecutors to open an inquiry.

The cancellation has fuelled a debate over how fundamentalists among the
country’s population of six million Muslims are seeking to impose their vision of society on the French way of life.

The town’s communist mayor told a press conference on Thursday
that he shelved the screening to “protect” town hall officials who were
verbally assaulted that evening by a dozen young men making “insistent
threats”.



Olivier Sarrabeyrouse said the group had threatened to smash equipment
and had accused Barbie of “promoting homosexuality” and “undermining the
integrity of women”.

Aurore Bergé, minister for gender equality, said the furore was “not
insignificant” because it underlined attempts by hardline Muslims to
“infiltrate” districts with immigrant populations and influence social behaviour.

He added: “They must be denounced systematically for what they are.”

Last month, Emmanuel Macron unveiled measures to tackle what he called
the serious threat of radical Muslims seeking to undermine French society.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...homosexuality/

[arista]

Typical French

[Cherie]

Who thought that might happen?

Its always the younger ones as well which is pretty worrying, where are they getting their education

[Oliver_W]

The French are meant to be proudly secular, they should have told the thugs to do one, and brought in security.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Who thought that might happen?

Its always the younger ones as well which is pretty worrying, where are they getting their education

That religion only survives through brainwashing children

they don't get any adult conversions to speak of

[BBXX]

Well that’s ****ing gross. A city shouldn’t be ruled by gross religious extremism.

Also am I on glue or was there no homosexuality in Barbie anyway?!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Well that’s ****ing gross. A city shouldn’t be ruled by gross religious extremism.

Also am I on glue or was there no homosexuality in Barbie anyway?!

Id wager not one Muslim man complaining has seen the movie

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Who thought that might happen?

Its always the younger ones as well which is pretty worrying, where are they getting their education

Maybe they go to islamic 'schools' ?

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Well that’s ****ing gross. A city shouldn’t be ruled by gross religious extremism.

Also am I on glue or was there no homosexuality in Barbie anyway?!

The Ken dolls were gay 😂, however there wasn’t really anything homo about Barbie from what I remember

[Liam-]

You have something in common with them then

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Well that’s ****ing gross. A city shouldn’t be ruled by gross religious extremism.

Also am I on glue or was there no homosexuality in Barbie anyway?!

Somehow I doubt those people should be first in line for matters like critical thinking or mental congition

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The French are meant to be proudly secular, they should have told the thugs to do one, and brought in security.

This.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The French are meant to be proudly secular, they should have told the thugs to do one, and brought in security.

You'd think...

Edit: I should mention that being "secular" doesn't necessarily mean good values will prevail. Religion, whatever we think of it individually, draws a fairly clear line in the sand on what it will tolerate. So in some ways it will always have the upper hand... Secular people, imo, are more likely to stand in the sidelines and do jack sh** even when society has clearly gone off the rails and can easily be shackled into inaction just from things like peer pressure... that's the main issue I have with Libertarian-ism, etc... yes, it's great to be so accepting, but one has to stand for something at the end of the day... if one doesn't know what is right and wrong on a visceral level, then one's willpower to do the right thing at the right time may come too late after the damage is already done. A few people like this is fine, but when it becomes a societal tendency, then it spells trouble... there's many examples of this across the West... and imo, Radical Islam are taking full advantage of that slip in our ability to even call out basic things as being a major problem...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

You'd think...

Edit: I should mention that being "secular" doesn't necessarily mean good values will prevail. Religion, whatever we think of it individually, draws a fairly clear line in the sand on what it will tolerate. So in some ways it will always have the upper hand... Secular people, imo, are more likely to stand in the sidelines and do jack sh** even when society has clearly gone off the rails and can easily be shackled into inaction just from things like peer pressure... that's the main issue I have with Libertarian-ism, etc... yes, it's great to be so accepting, but one has to stand for something at the end of the day... if one doesn't know what is right and wrong on a visceral level, then one's willpower to do the right thing at the right time may come too late before the damage is already done. A few people like this is fine, but when it becomes a societal tendency, then it spells trouble... there's many examples of this across the West... and imo, Radical Islam are taking full advantage of that slip in our ability to even call out basic things as being a major problem...

I 100% agree on everything that you've said.

Especially people being passerby's in situations where they need to take a stand, but get scared of being seen as the bad guy.

[bots]

Screenings of films, theatre events etc have also been cancelled here for similar things. It doesn't change peoples fundamental rights

[Nicky91]

good

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bots

Screenings of films, theatre events etc have also been cancelled here for similar things. It doesn't change peoples fundamental rights

…but not generally because of a shout against from 15 people, I wouldn’t have thought…I mean, as BBXX has said, I don’t even see any ‘promotion of gay’ unless it’s an offended stance by the colour, pink…

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…but not generally because of a shout against from 15 people, I wouldn’t have thought…I mean, as BBXX has said, I don’t even see any ‘promotion of gay’ unless it’s an offended stance by the colour, pink…

the way i look at it, it's up to local french people to sort the problem out. There are much bigger issues happening in the world, and stories like these are being used for distraction purposes. Major crisis, the USA are in bed with Russia .... look over there, a cinema in France isn't showing Barbie

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bots

the way i look at it, it's up to local french people to sort the problem out. There are much bigger issues happening in the world, and stories like these are being used for distraction purposes. Major crisis, the USA are in bed with Russia .... look over there, a cinema in France isn't showing Barbie

…I get that but to be fair though, it really isn’t much of a distraction …it doesn’t seem to be a story that has gained/is gaining much traction …and also because it is a local decision type thing and just more regionalised…?…I mean, wasn’t the screening due in an area/region of high Islam population so maybe there was an ‘upcoming re-election’ that was being considered as well in appeasing those 15…but it isn’t really a big story/distraction type story as such, I would personally say…it’s us/the public that would make any story such…and ‘distraction stories’ are becoming so commonplace that for many they don’t even register any type of impact/thought anymore because they’re so misrepresented…

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I get that but to be fair though, it really isn’t much of a distraction …it doesn’t seem to be a story that has gained/is gaining much traction …and also because it is a local decision type thing and just more regionalised…?…I mean, wasn’t the screening due in an area/region of high Islam population so maybe there was an ‘upcoming re-election’ that was being considered as well in appeasing those 15…but it isn’t really a big story/distraction type story as such, I would personally say…it’s us/the public that would make any story such…and ‘distraction stories’ are becoming so commonplace that for many they don’t even register any type of impact/thought anymore because they’re so misrepresented…

it's russian propaganda. It's what they do, they highlight lots of these in the hope some gain traction. Like i say, it's a very local issue that really nobody outside the town should give a crap about, and yet here we are in a small corner of the world discussing it. People need to be aware that this tactic is being employed constantly, and the fact someone created a thread about it here shows that the rusiian intent is being propagated

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

Screenings of films, theatre events etc have also been cancelled here for similar things. It doesn't change peoples fundamental rights

Tbh, that just makes it worse.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

the way i look at it, it's up to local french people to sort the problem out. There are much bigger issues happening in the world, and stories like these are being used for distraction purposes. Major crisis, the USA are in bed with Russia .... look over there, a cinema in France isn't showing Barbie

I'm not so sure about that, as things like this can lead to a slippery slope/bigger capitulation somewhere down the line.

Like what's to stop these Muslim extremists from trying to censor or ban something on a significantly bigger scale?

And I know you're probably thinking whataboutery or something similar, but we have seen throughout history how the tiniest of things can set off more crazy **** later on down the line.

It's the same worry that I have with Starmer's policing the Internet policy, because it starts with “bad words” and then it's age verification for certain Wikipedia pages, Spotify, and Porn sites. And we know that he'll eventually come for places like Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook with the same authoritarian and Dystopian crap.

And it's the same thing here with the Muslim extremists, you don't give them an inch because they'll now think that they can dictate what is and isn't okay to air in French Cinema, and if they're crazy enough they might even try to censor News publications.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm not so sure about that, as things like this can lead to a slippery slope/bigger capitulation somewhere down the line.

Like what's to stop these Muslim extremists from trying to censor or ban something on a significantly bigger scale?

And I know you're probably thinking whataboutery or something similar, but we have seen throughout history how the tiniest of things can set off more crazy **** later on down the line.

It's the same worry that I have with Starmer's policing the Internet policy, because it starts with “bad words” and then it's age verification for certain Wikipedia pages, Spotify, and Porn sites. And we know that he'll eventually come for places like Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook with the same authoritarian and Dystopian crap.

And it's the same thing here with the Muslim extremists, you don't give them an inch because they'll now think that they can dictate what is and isn't okay to air in French Cinema, and if they're crazy enough they might even try to censor News publications.

Democracy is not compatible with the modern age. It only worked when information availability was limited and slow. That, unfortunately, is the sad reality of the present day. The world is ****ed, and unfortunately, there is no going back

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by bots

Screenings of films, theatre events etc have also been cancelled here for similar things. It doesn't change peoples fundamental rights

They have the right to not watch the movie. They don't have the right to impose their religious beliefs on the rest of society.

Someone else's diet shouldn' t prevent me from eating a doughnut.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

Democracy is not compatible with the modern age. It only worked when information availability was limited and slow. That, unfortunately, is the sad reality of the present day. The world is ****ed, and unfortunately, there is no going back

I agree with you that we're losing democracy more and more by the day.

But personally it's something that I will never be happy about, or just ignore without saying anything.

For me there is no topic that fires me up more than when I see threads like this, because in my eyes it's a threat on people's freedom of choice, admittedly on a much smaller scale, but it still is taking away people's choice to watch a Movie and possibly have a good time all because of some ****ing extremists that for some reason are living in a country who's culture that they can't stand.

Because these Muslim extremists should leave France if they can't handle a Barbie Film airing in the country.