[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by BBXX

This is a weird thing to say.

Someone can identify as one thing and then discover feelings about others. Sexuality is fluid and some people are more certain about their own sexuality than others. To say it was a trick is to imply it was an actual lie for nefarious reasons, which you have no proof of.

Moreover, unless you're in a relationship with them, nobody else's sexual identity has anything to do with you so to claim you've been tricked is really off base.

What Mickey did and said was still completely inappropriate, Jo Jo falling for a man doesn't change any of that.

Where did I mention Mickey? I agree with you that his behaviour towards her was bad, I still stand by that.

And how on earth can someone be sexuality fluid? I'm genuinely curious about that one.

And when they're on Reality TV Show talking about their sexuality/overall identity a lot, then I'm sorry to tell you this but she's made it the audiences business, so you're wrong factually to say that it's "got nothing to do with me" when she basically made her entire stint in the house be about her sexuality and the community that she represents.

And it is not a weird thing to say that a 22 year old should know what sexuality they are, I honestly don't buy that she didn't know, but that's just my very controversial opinion, and I do apologise if I am wrong about that, but I just don't believe that I am.

And just to add, is it really wrong to pull up a Housemate for potentially lying about themselves on a show where the public vote? I mean basic standards do need to be met.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Where did I mention Mickey? I agree with you that his behaviour towards her was bad, I still stand by that.

You said: “I remember some of us were even defending her against Mickey and his supporters.” as if her now fancying a ma somehow made that defence null and pointless.

And how on earth can someone be sexuality fluid? I'm genuinely curious about that one.

Some people have no attraction to certain genders, some have attraction to all, some fall in love with the person regardless of gender, etc… it’s a spectrum.

And when they're on Reality TV Show talking about their sexuality/overall identity a lot, then I'm sorry to tell you this but she's made it the audiences business, so you're wrong factually to say that it's "got nothing to do with me" when she basically made her entire stint in the house be about her sexuality and the community that she represents.

It’s got nothing to do with you in the way you were inferring, as if she specifically lied to mislead. If someone went on big brother and said they were straight and then met someone in there who they fell fall and came out and said okay it turns out they’re bisexual after all because they discovered something about themselves, would you feel misled?

And it is not a weird thing to say that a 22 year old should know what sexuality they are, I honestly don't buy that she didn't know, but that's just my very controversial opinion, and I do apologise if I am wrong about that, but I just don't believe that I am.

You’re speaking from your own experience alone. Not everyone’s experiences with sexuality are the same. I think you should consider that.

And just to add, is it really wrong to pull up a Housemate for potentially lying about themselves on a show where the public vote? I mean basic standards do need to be met.

It’s wrong to frame it as fact and that her falling for someone who was a different gender to who she is used to loving is somehow deceptive.

Nobody owes anyone an explanation for who they fall in love with and it’s strange to think we have ownership on the path of their sexuality to the point of feeling betrayed if they veer from the path we’ve put them on. You’re holding them to an unfair standard. Love and emotion and sexuality and attraction is complex.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by BBXX

You said: “I remember some of us were even defending her against Mickey and his supporters.” as if her now fancying a ma somehow made that defence null and pointless.



Some people have no attraction to certain genders, some have attraction to all, some fall in love with the person regardless of gender, etc… it’s a spectrum.



It’s got nothing to do with you in the way you were inferring, as if she specifically lied to mislead. If someone went on big brother and said they were straight and then met someone in there who they fell fall and came out and said okay it turns out they’re bisexual after all because they discovered something about themselves, would you feel misled?



You’re speaking from your own experience alone. Not everyone’s experiences with sexuality are the same. I think you should consider that.



It’s wrong to frame it as fact and that her falling for someone who was a different gender to who she is used to loving is somehow deceptive.

Nobody owes anyone an explanation for who they fall in love with and it’s strange to think we have ownership on the path of their sexuality to the point of feeling betrayed if they veer from the path we’ve put them on. You’re holding them to an unfair standard. Love and emotion and sexuality and attraction is complex.

What I meant by that is she attached herself as being apart of the Lesbian community, and I remember there were those of us on TIBB that were defending Jojo against Mickey and some people on his side on here when he was being Homophobic towards her, talking about how he was "going to show her a good time."

Jojo has made some Homophobic people believe in that stereotype that being a Lesbian is "flexible" which I personally don't like seeing on the Internet, especially when they start taking the piss out of those of us who were having her back against Mickey.

What Mickey said was bad, I said it at the time and I still standby it now.

I'm just disappointed that I believe that Jojo possibly played the public.

It would depend on the age of the straight person, and if they were talking about being straight being such an important part of their identity, like Jojo did do in her series, plus she's in her 20's, she's not a teenager trying to understand her sexual preferences.

Fair point, if you don't mind me asking, how old were you (roundabouts) when you were confident about your sexuality? I understand it's a personal question, so fair enough if you don't want to answer it.

I said it's factually wrong for you to say that I can't comment about her possibly deceiving the public, when the whole point of Big Brother is discussing everything that they bring to the table.

Yes it's not a fact that my opinion is correct, but going by your logic what proof do you have that she wasn't lying on the Show?

Or to put the other point out there, what's to say that she's not lying now?

After all we know that more conservative (not the party) viewpoints are becoming more mainstream, especially amongst young men and she could be trying to tap into that market.

Now after saying all of this, do I think that Jojo is some evil entity that nobody should like? No, but do I trust anything that she says about herself at this point? Tbh no.

And I can't speak about love in a romantic sense as I've never experienced that, thankfully after seeing Rylie on BBUSA this season. So I will take your word on it being complex.

Attraction isn't really that complex though I believe. Because as shallow as it is to say, it's do you think that the other person is physically attractive or not.