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The voice of reason
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The Italian Job
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100%. Love him for having the guts to say it
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The voice of reason
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SIGH
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I agree with it. It doesn’t excuse away the blatant racsim and ignorant unintelligence of the vast majority of people I the country. It doesn’t explain away the disproportionate and misleading statistics. This country had problems but shock horror, it’s not solely down to immigration.
Scale •Net migration was about 685,000 in 2023, down from the record 764,000 in 2022. That’s around 1% of the UK population per year. •The foreign-born share of the UK population is about 15%, similar to Germany, Canada, and the US, lower than Australia (30%). Who is coming •The majority are students (roughly 40%). •Work visas, especially in health and social care, are another big chunk. The NHS and care sector would collapse without migrant labour. •Refugees and asylum seekers make up less than 10% of arrivals. Economic impact •Migrants contribute more in taxes than they take in services. The OBR says immigration adds 0.5–1% to GDP growth annually. •Without migrants, the UK’s labour shortages in healthcare, agriculture, hospitality, and logistics would deepen. •Migrants are, on average, younger and help counter the UK’s ageing population. Public perception vs reality •Polling shows 63% of people call immigration a top issue. But when broken down, many support work and student visas. Hostility rises around asylum seekers and small boats, even though they’re a small fraction of migration. •Local strain is real in some areas: housing supply, school places, GP access. These problems exist without immigration. The real drivers of tension •Poor housing policy, NHS underfunding, and stagnant wages fuel resentment. Politicians often deflect responsibility by blaming migrants. •Right-wing parties inflate numbers, calling it an “invasion”, but the data shows managed immigration is mostly essential and beneficial. So: immigration is not the existential problem some make it out to be. The problem lies in how the UK manages housing, wages, and public services, not in the act of people coming here
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Piss orf.
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Dont forget food deliveries @Glenn. The country is crying out for more food delivery drivers.
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In my Cop era
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Yes I agree. There are cases that yes immigrates are good for our country with the doctors and nurses etc but the other side of it is there are bad people, killers, rapist that come into our country too that needs to be stopped.
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Like a fine whiskey
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He has put it perfectly.
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Tbf he is on point with what he is saying.
In my view this country is basically encouraging Immigrants to come to this country illegally, because you get it easier than the immigrants that are going through the proper channels to be a citizen of this country.
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Celebrating 10 years
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His is a very normal and common view at this point, at least where I am.... There is still a small minority that still wants to rehash the same old emotional arguments that don't really ever seem to change anything for everyday people. Instead a good majority of people aren't even interested in those kinds of talking points. They just look at their receipts, the taxes they pay (or in our case, insanely property taxes), higher insurance rates and the ballooning cost of living and think "Something just ain't right"... the common consensus seems to be we need to go reverse at this point because whatever we were doing was clearly insane...
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another vice
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Rylan always has a great way of explaining things, he's absolutely right
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