[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Good luck to him.

It would be good to see some real justice for once.

What do you want justice for, exactly? What has he done? What evidence exists? If any evidence existed Andrew would have been arrested but he hasn't been arrested, let alone charged with a crime. So far as I can see this whole thing is hinged on one dodgy photo and the claims of a clearly unbalanced and damaged woman. Are there any other witnesses? Andrew, an actual war hero, may not be the most.likeable member of the royal family but he's been treated abominably imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

What do you want justice for, exactly? What has he done? What evidence exists? If any evidence existed Andrew would have been arrested but he hasn't been arrested, let alone charged with a crime. So far as I can see this whole thing is hinged on one dodgy photo and the claims of a clearly unbalanced and damaged woman. Are there any other witnesses? Andrew, an actual war hero, may not be the most.likeable member of the royal family but he's been treated abominably imo.

He didn't want to be questioned by the FBI when they were looking for information from him about the case.

From my view, I would want to clear my name up from being a possible suspect.

Didn't he also stay friends with a Paedophile after the fact, or am I mixing him up with someone else?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

He didn't want to be questioned by the FBI when they were looking for information from him about the case.

From my view, I would want to clear my name up from being a possible suspect.

Didn't he also stay friends with a Paedophile after the fact, or am I mixing him up with someone else?

How many "friends" do you think Epstein had? I'm not arguing that he was an odious paedo, i just don't think you can tar everyone he ever interacted with using the same brush. I don't know what his interactions were with the FBI. I do know they have nothing solid on him or he'd have been arrested. To me this is the persecution of someone because he's a member of the British royal family and the press LOVE a salacious, sensational story especially in connection to the royals.

Morning Mock, by the way...

[bots]

people are not going to find out the true details about epstein because the people that took advantage of the services he offered are never going to admit it. Add to that the fact that most of them are powerful, rich people, and the chances decrease even further.

The actual big problem is that these thing still go on to this day both here and in america and the authorities continue to look the other way

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

He didn't want to be questioned by the FBI when they were looking for information from him about the case.

From my view, I would want to clear my name up from being a possible suspect.

Didn't he also stay friends with a Paedophile after the fact, or am I mixing him up with someone else?

The FBI
should fly to London
to speak to him.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

How many "friends" do you think Epstein had? I'm not arguing that he was an odious paedo, i just don't think you can tar everyone he ever interacted with using the same brush. I don't know what his interactions were with the FBI. I do know they have nothing solid on him or he'd have been arrested. To me this is the persecution of someone because he's a member of the British royal family and the press LOVE a salacious, sensational story especially in connection to the royals.

Morning Mock, by the way...

I'm sorry for the late response Livia, I hope that you've been doing well?

Tbf Andrew might not be a Paedophile, but I do believe that he has information about Paedophiles on that island, and I think that the FBI were suspicious that he has information too.

And I do agree with you tbf that the media love a dramatic scandal involving famous people.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

The FBI
should fly to London
to speak to him.

Criminal Minds: London.

[Beso]

Just found myself quoting livia points over the golf club earlier.

I think I swayed him.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm sorry for the late response Livia, I hope that you've been doing well?

Tbf Andrew might not be a Paedophile, but I do believe that he has information about Paedophiles on that island, and I think that the FBI were suspicious that he has information too.

And I do agree with you tbf that the media love a dramatic scandal involving famous people.

You were late, Mock. I hope you have a note....

[bots]

Andrew is arrogant and self entitled like the majority of the wealthy. If you compare Andrew, to the other royals at the time, he was the one most rubbing it in the publics face which is why people basically don't like him. Most people would probably have let his behaviour go and shook their heads, but his performance in that newsnight interview turned the public firmly against him. It doesn't mean he is guilty, but he may as well be in the publics view

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bots

Andrew is arrogant and self entitled like the majority of the wealthy. If you compare Andrew, to the other royals at the time, he was the one most rubbing it in the publics face which is why people basically don't like him. Most people would probably have let his behaviour go and shook their heads, but his performance in that newsnight interview turned the public firmly against him. It doesn't mean he is guilty, but he may as well be in the publics view

Most people I know don't have strong feeling about him either way. Most people of my Dad's generation remember him as a hero of the Falklands war.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most people I know don't have strong feeling about him either way. Most people of my Dad's generation remember him as a hero of the Falklands war.

i remember Andrew from the Falklands war. We are of a similar age, so i remember when he was flying in his helicopter and acting as a decoy for the ships in the fleet. The argentine missiles were a really big threat at the time and being of a similatr age I had to admire his bravery.

Really, Andrews descent into playboy happened when the queen wouldn't allow him to marry Koo Stark, his first true love. It all went downhill from there. It's a story that gets repeated over and over again with the queens family

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

You were late, Mock. I hope you have a note....

Notepad and pen at the ready.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Notepad and pen at the ready.

A tenner would do.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

A tenner would do.