[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

Why would waving a flag of your nation make people feel unwelcome?

Seems a strange thing to say!

Does context and intent mean anything to you, or....? You're being deliberately ignorant and I won't waste my time especially when I've already explained above that the context in which the flags are being waved within creates an altogether different message separate from "we love our country".

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Does context and intent mean anything to you, or....? You're being deliberately ignorant and I won't waste my time especially when I've already explained above that the context in which the flags are being waved within creates an altogether different message separate from "we love our country".

So waving Palestine flags is supporting another nation in protest hanging a flag in your garden is patriotic. Putting up flags on lamposts is a sign of protest.
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So which part makes it flying the English to make immigrants feel unwelcome...where does that come into it? The organisers of raising the flags, have stated it's a protest against the government's attack on free speech, but you seem to be saying it's being done to make immigrants feel unwelcome, whilst saying the waving of any other nations flag is not done to make anyone feel unwelcome..


I'm slightly confused with your stance here!



And what about the members of the public taking them down, what does that make them? Unpatriotic?

[BBXX]

So which part makes it flying the English to make immigrants feel unwelcome...where does that come into it?

What's currently happening with the raising of the colours is happening in conjunction with and alongside anti-migrant rhetoric.

The organisers of raising the flags, have stated it's a protest against the government's attack on free speech

The man who was a member of the EDL, is linked with Britain First and was jailed for affray due to his part in a race-related killing? Sorry if I don't believe him when he says it's not about immigration. Question is, why do you?

...whilst saying the waving of any other nations flag is not done to make anyone feel unwelcome..

I didn't say that. The intention behind waving any national flag decides whether it's done to hurt or for patriotic reasons. It's not the action, but the reasoning. If someone hangs a bunch of Palestinian flags outside of a Synagogue that is hateful and wrong because it's done to intimidate.

And what about the members of the public taking them down, what does that make them? Unpatriotic?

I would say in the current climate, it's a counter protest against the intentions behind many people putting them up. In any normal situation, when it's not linked with a far-right racist criminal, or not linked with anti-immigration messaging, or not hung outside mosques to intimidate, that, yes, the pulling down of a national flag flown for patriotic reasons is unpatriotic and hateful.

Sorry if the nuance behind this subject is confusing you.