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Old 11-09-2025, 07:11 AM #126
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Funny. I just posted an article that also listed a lot of these.

And these are just national stories. There's been local incidents like attacks or threats against judges, etc. That's one reason I started the Local News thread because a lot of things are happening, but they just don't get the same traction media-wise.

For whatever reason, the Minnesota one really stuck with me. I remember watching a clip of her addressing a vote she had just made. She was utterly terrified having to face her constituents. Then she was killed shortly after that...
…the horrific acts and taking of lives in themselves are so concerning but what’s also become terrifying is a public apathy of the common people for the slaughter of human life that I for sure have never known before …dependant on eho the victim is/victims are….
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…I mean, I’m not unrealistic enough to think that any gun laws/gun ownership will change but are we now looking at these type of events on university campuses with activists/speakers/media influencers etc having to take place in bulletproof cubes/behind screens to be able to ensure their safety…that isn’t a realistic thing either…
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Hopefully the maniac is found and locked up, surely they would have been caught on CCTV somewhere around the campus?
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the reports about the assassination on mediaite.com is nuts like how the right mostly from fox news are having meltdowns but more like getting all fired up about how its all just the left fault

like 1st of all we still do not know who killed charlie and 2nd of all we do not know which side he or she is with and 3rd thing what if the killer is someone from the right then what will happen
The most disgusting remarks have come from the Left. Remember there is a widow and young children grieving today. Then read the sick, gleeful comments from the smug, violent Left.
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Time will tell


I assume he drove away
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The most disgusting remarks have come from the Left. Remember there is a widow and young children grieving today. Then read the sick, gleeful comments from the smug, violent Left.

The exact same happened from the violent right when Democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband were shot dead in their own home, along with their dog.
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The murder of Charlie Kirk is a tragedy, and a sign of the utter desperation and cowardice of those who could not defeat him in argument. Charlie Kirk has been killed not for espousing extremist views - because he didn’t. He has been killed for saying things that used to be simple common sense. He has been killed because he had the courage to stand up publicly for reasonable opinions held by millions and millions of ordinary people both in the US and Britain. The world has a shining new martyr to free speech.

Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and loved ones.


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I assume he drove away
…or is part of the university/campus/staff or whatever and still there…’blended’ in to their surroundings before their heinous act and gone back to ‘blending in’…?…
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Just went back to the killing of democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband.

I also went back to the thread on here and a lot of members who have been so vocal in this thread are nowhere to be found there.

These are comments from the Right on the assassination of Melissa Hortman and her husband. Just for a bit of perspective for you

@user888414142131: thank you president trump!!!

@Kostas Papadopoulos: Democrats will do anything to tear this country apart
@Johnstone: Democrats violent rhetoric causes this

@Bald Woman Lover: my prayers and condolences for the shooter and he shooters family as they get through these trying times

@kobeowns: We need more of this. Lawmakers have betrayed and stolen from the American people for decades
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I’m also not right wing which is who I was referring to
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I’m also not right wing which is who I was referring to
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…of course, but that’s something that is going to have to be looked at going forward…the ‘openness of speech’ is one thing but the openness of the venue which didn’t give him safety is something that needs to be addressed for all other speakers…
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You would think. I'm sure the FBI will find whoever did it, I doubt they are some criminal mastermind
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The increasing glorification of violence on the left is getting scary. A lot of it seems to be driven by the terminally online and their need to show how edgy they are
Meanwhile in the real world the right wing and maga nutjobs have been arming themselves and calling for a civil war for nearly 10 years, let’s not be completely blind now
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Turning this into a left v right issue is so easy to do but the truth is, extremes of both political scales act terribly during times like this. To suggest this gross behaviour only comes from the left is disingenuous because it’s based in falsehood.

This is a man who said if his daughter was to get pregnant as a child from the product of rape he would make her carry the baby to term. To suggest he didn’t hold extremist views is wrong.

Having said all that, nobody deserves to be killed while doing their job, even if that involves spouting outlandish views that many find awful.

He once said empathy is a weakness, so I shan’t hold out any for him, but I will for his family: his wife and most of all his children.

It’s a horrendous thing to happen and is a further example of why gun control is so important.

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Political violence is wrong no matter which side of the aisle it comes from, however the pearl clutching and the faux moral outrage at people not being sympathetic that someone who’s made a career from stoking division and hatred of minorities, fighting to keep allowing children get killed in schools because he likes his guns too much, earning money from publicly celebrating a genocide taking the lives of endless children because he doesn’t like their skin colour or religion, he himself said that he doesn’t like empathy because it’s new age nonsense, he wasn’t a good person and he made a massive amount of money by grooming young people into believing his lies and turning them into horrible people too in the process.

The right constantly mock and joke when people on the left are killed or attacked, let’s not forget what happened when Nancy Pelosi’s husband was attacked by someone trying to kidnap her, the right were joyously celebrating and turning the story into Halloween costumes, they can’t pick and choose, either it’s fine to joke and not feel sympathy for someone you don’t like, or it’s not.

Should he have been murdered? No.
Does him being murdered suddenly earn him respect from people he’s made his targets his entire career? No
I feel sorry for his wife for losing her husband and his kids for losing their father, the video of his death will live on forever and that’s an appalling thing for his family to have to face.

He’s a victim of the climate he purposefully helped create for money and attention, an arsonist brought down by his own fire.
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Turning this into a left v right issue is so easy to do but the truth is, extremes of both political scales act terribly during times like this. To suggest this gross behaviour only comes from the left is disingenuous because it’s based in falsehood.

This is a man who said if his daughter was to get pregnant as a child from the product of rape he would make her carry the baby to term. To suggest he didn’t hold extremist views is wrong.

Having said all that, nobody deserves to be killed while doing their job, even if that involves spouting outlandish views that many find awful.

He once said empathy is a weakness, so I shan’t hold out any for him, but I will for his family: his wife and most of all his children.

It’s a horrendous thing to happen and is a further example of why gun control is so important.

I wonder if that had actually happened that he would follow through, most of these people with extremely controversial views are more in the brigade of 'do as I say, not as I do' and I also agree with your point that both sides of the extreme are as bad as each other, that said it was just words, just his views, yes he had influence over some but that should never have ended in an assasination, I hope there wont be further tit for tat now
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