[BBXX]

"They have a license granted by us at the FCC that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest," Carr told Johnson. "I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct to take actions, frankly on Kimmel, or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead."

Before ABC announced it was halting Kimmel’s show, two companies that own a range of ABC affiliates, Nexstar and Sinclair, said they would be preempting his show. Nexstar is seeking FCC approval for a merger with Tegna, while Nexstar and Sinclair are asking the FCC to repeal a rule that limits any broadcasting company from reaching more than 39% of U.S. households.

In an interview after Kimmel’s show was pulled, Carr again cited his agency’s public interest obligation. Speaking with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Carr said: "We at the FCC are going to enforce the public interest obligation. If there’s broadcasters out there that don’t like it, they can turn their license in to the FCC. But that’s our job, and again we’re making some progress now."

Publications and legal experts say Carr overstepped his mandate, using the threat of government action to police what should qualify as free speech.

"When a network drops high-profile talent hours after the FCC chairman makes a barely veiled threat, then it’s no longer just a business decision. It’s government coercion," wrote the right-of-center publication The Free Press. "Is it now Trump administration policy to punish broadcasters for comedy that doesn’t conform to its politics? That is censorship."

You're once again ignoring a lot of fact and lacking any rational objectivity which makes having a discussion with you almost impossible.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by bots

he was taken off the air at the direction of trump, no matter how much you try and obfuscate

I disagree, ratings are EVERYTHING in the US. He was taken off for his comments, and taken off because he's not as popular as he once was.

Had he been pulling in record numbers, the TV network would have kept him on. His misinformation surrounding the murder of Charlie Kirk, gave the network all what they needed to get rid. His show was a sinking ship, way before any of this, Kirk comments, Trump etc.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

It was in the Free Speech Rally thread in reply to Livia who, in the middle of a discussion about the threat of men to women, decided to bring up trans people (again) suggesting the "trans loving, woman hating gay men" don't actually care about women. She did this because she believes we can't care about women because we support trans women as in her opinion, trans women are a huge threat to non-trans women.

The stat you have mentioned was amongst other stats to remind people that woman are at risk from largely men then know and/or cis, straight men - this was illustrated by the various stats which were either relating to women being killed or attacked by partners, ex's or family, or stats that showed almost half the men who were arrested for protesting migrants last year had prior due to domestic violence.

My post aimed to highlight that women, by and large, are at a much, much, much great risk from their partners who often fall into the demographic on said march as evidenced by the domestic violence statistic, and not from trans women as Livia was (once again, and falsely) suggesting.

The mothers/sons stat was not being used to link any political party, no.

Your post did indeed highlight that.


Any stats on domestic abuse for gay marraige?

That can disprove this https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648


Are they right wingers too?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Swan

I disagree, ratings are EVERYTHING in the US. He was taken off for his comments, and taken off because he's not as popular as he once was.

Had he been pulling in record numbers, the TV network would have kept him on. His misinformation surrounding the murder of Charlie Kirk, gave the network all what they needed to get rid. His show was a sinking ship, way before any of this, Kirk comments, Trump etc.

ABC pay him a very lucrative contract. The normal way would be to let his contract expire and not renew. Now, they have to pay his contract

[Swan]

Originally Posted by bots

ABC pay him a very lucrative contract. The normal way would be to let his contract expire and not renew. Now, they have to pay his contract

That's chump change to these massive corporate juggernauts. Ad rev is where it's at. And again, if he was bringing record numbers, he'd be safe as houses.

They claim to have them, but none of these billion dollar companies have any morals, right or wrong, when it comes to their bottom line.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

Your post did indeed highlight that.


Any stats on domestic abuse for gay marraige?

That can disprove this https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648


Are they right wingers too?

Here are some stats on the lifetime domestic abuse rate:

Women
Heterosexual women: 35%
Lesbian women: 44%

Men
Heterosexual men: 29%
Gay men: 26%

As you can see, gay men face the lowest domestic abuse rates across the board. Lesbian women face higher, but it's important to remember these stats are LIFETIME PARTNERS and I remember reading elsewhere these stats also were including previously relationships with men. Bisexual people actually face the highest level of DV, and I don't know why, it would be interesting to theorise about this.

Many studies how show that relationship satisfaction is greater between homosexual couples than in heterosexual couples, possibly largely to do with a greater equality within the relationship - a greater balance of labour and domestic jobs, etc...

It's important also to remember that homosexual people face much higher rates of depression due to minority stressors.

But more important than that is this: you've glued together two different strands of stats which say two very different things:

- One where I have used stats to show that women are at a much greater risk from their partners than they are from trans women. These statistics are true and paint a real picture of where the risk for women lies within society.

- A stat from this thread (which is what you originally quoted me from which is why I was surprised when you explained which stat you mentioned the mother and son one). What I've spoken about in this thread, and what my comment about the right normalising murder is the statistics that shows extremist politically led violence being higher amongst right-wing than left - and by a fair margin. These stats are completely a different topic to domestic violence, which is, I don't believe, a right/left issue because it's not politically motivated in the way that extremist violence is.

To say that it's enlightening that 41% of right-wing men who were arrested during anti migrant protests in the name of protecting women were known to police because of domestic violence accusations, doesn't mean that left-wing people can't be perpetrators of domestic violence. Of course they can. And yes, there are plenty of gay/lesbian right-wingers.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by bots

ABC pay him a very lucrative contract. The normal way would be to let his contract expire and not renew. Now, they have to pay his contract

He's near the end of his contract...

Jimmy Kimmel’s future at ABC was already up in air before Charlie Kirk uproar as contract came to a close
https://pagesix.com/2025/09/18/enter...e-kirk-uproar/

[Maru]

FCC were involved so no matter what, Trump's involvement can't be completely ruled out. They have a duty to and are able to correct the record but they won't immediately if it's even possible. Carr has said out loud their intention is to expect broadcasters and media conglomerates to take matters into their hands and clean up their own house instead of forcing them to wage war. Public sentiment has shifted significantly towards concerns about what media we are consuming, especially after the shooting.

In my opinion, both parties at this point have already said in different ways that social media has now become a problem so both want to do something about it but just haven't admitted it out loud yet... if they're not on the same page, they're just about there. I wouldn't be surprised if at least some in the party felt very similarly about TV as well...

Kimmel and personalities like him were useful cows for a time but they are just about milked. The Democrat establishment doesn't actually care about the free speech issue and won't do much more than complain about it unless they can somehow use this opportunity to make permanent their extended soapbox into the entertainment space.

Just my two cents.

[bots]

everything boils down to money in the end. free speech is great if it makes me money

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Here are some stats on the lifetime domestic abuse rate:

Women
Heterosexual women: 35%
Lesbian women: 44%

Men
Heterosexual men: 29%
Gay men: 26%

As you can see, gay men face the lowest domestic abuse rates across the board. Lesbian women face higher, but it's important to remember these stats are LIFETIME PARTNERS and I remember reading elsewhere these stats also were including previously relationships with men. Bisexual people actually face the highest level of DV, and I don't know why, it would be interesting to theorise about this.

Many studies how show that relationship satisfaction is greater between homosexual couples than in heterosexual couples, possibly largely to do with a greater equality within the relationship - a greater balance of labour and domestic jobs, etc...

It's important also to remember that homosexual people face much higher rates of depression due to minority stressors.

But more important than that is this: you've glued together two different strands of stats which say two very different things:

- One where I have used stats to show that women are at a much greater risk from their partners than they are from trans women. These statistics are true and paint a real picture of where the risk for women lies within society.

- A stat from this thread (which is what you originally quoted me from which is why I was surprised when you explained which stat you mentioned the mother and son one). What I've spoken about in this thread, and what my comment about the right normalising murder is the statistics that shows extremist politically led violence being higher amongst right-wing than left - and by a fair margin. These stats are completely a different topic to domestic violence, which is, I don't believe, a right/left issue because it's not politically motivated in the way that extremist violence is.

To say that it's enlightening that 41% of right-wing men who were arrested during anti migrant protests in the name of protecting women were known to police because of domestic violence accusations, doesn't mean that left-wing people can't be perpetrators of domestic violence. Of course they can. And yes, there are plenty of gay/lesbian right-wingers.

Can you post the link about the percentage of the arrests being known to police for DV.

There is a lot to take in in that post so I would like to start at the beginning before answering.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by bots

everything boils down to money in the end. free speech is great if it makes me money

It's smart as hell because they're playing the right. "Look, we've come to our senses!"... yeah ok...

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

Can you post the link about the percentage of the arrests being known to police for DV.

There is a lot to take in in that post so I would like to start at the beginning before answering.

It was from a FOI request and reported by The Guardian

Two out of every five people arrested after participating in last summer’s riots had been previously reported to the police for domestic abuse, the Guardian can disclose.

Police data released under freedom of information (FoI) laws shows that 41% of 899 people arrested for taking part in the violent disorder last July and August had been reported for crimes associated with intimate partner violence.

For those arrested by one police force, this figure was as high as 68%.

Previous offences include actual bodily harm, grievous bodily harm, stalking, breach of restraint and non-molestation orders, controlling coercive behaviour and criminal damage. - The Guardian

[Crimson Dynamo]

NEWS: OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE NOT IN TOP 3 UK UNIVERSITIES FOR FIRST TIME IN HISTORY

This is the price you pay for DEI schemes and promoting hateful people

#Charlie

[emseateng2014]

wonder who the 58 are

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

BREAKING USA: The House votes 310-58 to condemn Charlie Kirk’s assassination,
honor his legacy, and denounce political violence.

58 Democrats voted against it. Insane.

[emseateng2014]

left wingers voted against it

Originally Posted by Livia

Remind me, the people who voted against, are they on the Left or the Right...?

[emseateng2014]

its most likely that sunny and joy would get alot more mad about it than the rest of the cast

Originally Posted by Maru

Utter chaos breaks out backstage at The View over Jimmy Kimmel: Hosts at war and staff in fear... as network bosses impose strict new 'rule'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-abc-rule.html

Spoiler:

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

It was in the Free Speech Rally thread in reply to Livia who, in the middle of a discussion about the threat of men to women, decided to bring up trans people (again) suggesting the "trans loving, woman hating gay men" don't actually care about women. She did this because she believes we can't care about women because we support trans women as in her opinion, trans women are a huge threat to non-trans women.

The stat you have mentioned was amongst other stats to remind people that woman are at risk from largely men then know and/or cis, straight men - this was illustrated by the various stats which were either relating to women being killed or attacked by partners, ex's or family, or stats that showed almost half the men who were arrested for protesting migrants last year had prior due to domestic violence.

My post aimed to highlight that women, by and large, are at a much, much, much great risk from their partners who often fall into the demographic on said march as evidenced by the domestic violence statistic, and not from trans women as Livia was (once again, and falsely) suggesting.

The mothers/sons stat was not being used to link any political party, no.

Why use it then

[Beso]

I

Originally Posted by BBXX

It was from a FOI request and reported by The Guardian

Two out of every five people arrested after participating in last summer’s riots had been previously reported to the police for domestic abuse, the Guardian can disclose.

Police data released under freedom of information (FoI) laws shows that 41% of 899 people arrested for taking part in the violent disorder last July and August had been reported for crimes associated with intimate partner violence.

For those arrested by one police force, this figure was as high as 68%.

Previous offences include actual bodily harm, grievous bodily harm, stalking, breach of restraint and non-molestation orders, controlling coercive behaviour and criminal damage. - The Guardian

Been reported to the police are your key words there....says nothing about convictions.



The bit that does with the gbh etc etc, could be the crimes of one or 2 people mentioned all at once to paint a false picture on everyone else.

[Beso]

All probably single at the time of offences though.Hopefully.

Lots off down trodden men sat at home with the female version of Walter schofield mitty, slightly scared to mention going out for ten minutes, love...if the lesbian and bi sexual stats are to be believed.


It all weighs out in the end.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

Why use it then

Because as stated my reply was to Livia and was to point out women are mainly at risk from men they know not trans women, it wasn’t a left wing/right wing post.

[BBXX]

Oh dear.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Because as stated my reply was to Livia and was to point out women are mainly at risk from men they know not trans women, it wasn’t a left wing/right wing post.

I would prefer you not to use that particular part of the statistics .

Fair enough, elderly women could be killed by their middle aged sons, but also mothers could be killed by their teanage children, and those children could be struggling trans or not. The men could also be violent because they are in the closet, like many other well known names.


Basically, unless we delve deeper and narrow down those percentages on the percentages of people arrested with previous we cant really judge.

People on here sometimes do say the right wingers harassing gay people are closet gays themselves.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Because as stated my reply was to Livia and was to point out women are mainly at risk from men they know not trans women, it wasn’t a left wing/right wing post.

I dont think the stats matter, if women are at risk even one woman, its one woman too much, do you not agree?

No one cares about stats if they are attacked

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

I would prefer you not to use that particular part of the statistics .

Fair enough, elderly women could be killed by their middle aged sons, but also mothers could be killed by their teanage children, and those children could be struggling trans or not. The men could also be violent because they are in the closet, like many other well known names.


Basically, unless we delve deeper and narrow down those percentages on the percentages of people arrested with previous we cant really judge.

People on here sometimes do say the right wingers harassing gay people are closet gays themselves.

Im not saying they’re not gay or a struggling trans teenager. I’m saying they know them and they’re not a random trans woman in a bathroom.

Christ alive.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Im not saying they’re not gay or a struggling trans teenager. I’m saying they know them and they’re not a random trans woman in a bathroom.

Christ alive.

Err, no. You wernt saying "They know them"

You were saying that particular stat about mothers being killed by sons, somehow proved a point about Livias post about trans violence.

Dont start moving goalposts now at this time