[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…can you imagine it…now that we’ve got to know you all a bit more, we’d like to give ……….the evil eye instead of Zelah…/…as if the cruelty of it all has not been enough…

Exactly, I don't know what Richard was thinking even suggesting that tbh

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly, I don't know what Richard was thinking even suggesting that tbh

…I really disliked the whole thing of there not being nominations and the four newbies deciding who would face the eviction and Richard deciding that the way they would do it is basically to get the housemates to nominate to them…which is what BB had decided wouldn’t happen…I would have refused to say who I wanted most to say and least to stay…as it’s also effectively discussing nominations…awful plan but they all went along with it…

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I really disliked the whole thing of there not being nominations and the four newbies deciding who would face the eviction and Richard deciding that the way they would do it is basically to get the housemates to nominate to them…which is what BB had decided wouldn’t happen…I would have refused to say who I wanted most to say and least to stay…as it’s also effectively discussing nominations…awful plan but they all went along with it…

Yeah I was thinking that too, i would have told them no I'm not doing this, just because they had to make a choice doesn't mean they get to order the other HMs around and put them in that position (although, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a "suggestion" made by the producers either)

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by bots

when was there a rule that hm's must tell the truth?

They always put their own spin on everything and always have

True, they have always been free to lie.

But in return we have always been free to judge them on their lies.

It's kind of the basis of the show.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I really disliked the whole thing of there not being nominations and the four newbies deciding who would face the eviction and Richard deciding that the way they would do it is basically to get the housemates to nominate to them…which is what BB had decided wouldn’t happen…I would have refused to say who I wanted most to say and least to stay…as it’s also effectively discussing nominations…awful plan but they all went along with it…

Yes !!

I was actually shocked that the others all agreed with this turn of events ..

If nothing else it made them all a tad vulnerable as the FOUR now know who the others like / dislike and may / may not use it against them in the future or at best let the details slip in future conversations ..


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[ChristmasNeeve]

Also, from what they showed it didn't even seem like many people picked Gani either so they didn't even use what the HMs said, it was just an information farming exercise

[White Christmas]

I think his mask slipped massively last night.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

it was just an information farming exercise

Yep, that and a blame shield. Richard knew exactly what he was doing.

The guy writes mysteries, he has a particular type of mind.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also, from what they showed it didn't even seem like many people picked Gani either so they didn't even use what the HMs said, it was just an information farming exercise

More people picked Elsa. I think Gani got one vs Elsa three or four. But Cameron B thinking with his dick wanted to save her. And I think Richard just doesn’t like Gani.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

More people picked Elsa. I think Gani got one vs Elsa three or four. But Cameron B thinking with his dick wanted to save her. And I think Richard just doesn’t like Gani.

Don't like how it was made out Gani was annoying people with his dancing when only one person even voted for him.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

He was on about his request to reverse the first evil eye pick of Zelah, that's why he said the big boss over ruled him.

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Yes that’s my take on things .. he hasn’t lied at all .


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[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Don't like how it was made out Gani was annoying people with his dancing when only one person even voted for him.

Yeah, and everyone seemed shocked he was picked. I wouldn’t have minded as much if normal noms happened too, but having a head to head based on the four new comers who were exempt even though they only arrived a day later is ridiculous.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yeah, and everyone seemed shocked he was picked. I wouldn’t have minded as much if normal noms happened too, but having a head to head based on the four new comers who were exempt even though they only arrived a day later is ridiculous.

Yeah, that's the first 2 evictions now where they've messed around and gotten rid of people unfairly

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also why did he think he could over rule the decision that they already made, by himself without even checking that the other 3 would be ok with that?

Yes I wondered that as well … unless he had already mentioned what he was proposing to do to the other three beforehand- we don’t see everything plus none of the three showed any surprise or shock which suggests that they knew ..


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[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If he was he was still being sneaky because obviously Caroline is going to assume he meant Gani since that just happened and everyone was reacting to the new evil eye not last nights one. i think he knew what he was doing, if he got pulled up on it he could just say "oh i meant Zelah not Gani"

Yes that's very true...

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I really disliked the whole thing of there not being nominations and the four newbies deciding who would face the eviction and Richard deciding that the way they would do it is basically to get the housemates to nominate to them…which is what BB had decided wouldn’t happen…I would have refused to say who I wanted most to say and least to stay…as it’s also effectively discussing nominations…awful plan but they all went along with it…

I agree...it was a cop out and BB should have not allowed it as its pretty much discussing nominations because we get an insight into their personal nominations. Someone should have spoken up and got the others to agree not to give them info....trouble was, anyone who might have done that may have made themselves vulnerable for nomination

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree...it was a cop out and BB should have not allowed it as its pretty much discussing nominations because we get an insight into their personal nominations. Someone should have spoken up and got the others to agree not to give them info....trouble was, anyone who might have done that may have made themselves vulnerable for nomination

The thing is, those 4 now go into the first round of nominations with a slight advantage. They know at least one person all the others want out and will likely vote for.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree...it was a cop out and BB should have not allowed it as its pretty much discussing nominations because we get an insight into their personal nominations. Someone should have spoken up and got the others to agree not to give them info....trouble was, anyone who might have done that may have made themselves vulnerable for nomination

Its a mess


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[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

The thing is, those 4 now go into the first round of nominations with a slight advantage. They know at least one person all the others want out and will likely vote for.

Well I agree to some extent...but those four surely will know they may now have a target on their backs..

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well I agree to some extent...but those four surely will know they may now have a target on their backs..

Yeah but they know for example Cameron K is likely to get a lot of votes as will Elsa, so they could easily vote those two to ensure they keep the most nominations.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

The thing is, those 4 now go into the first round of nominations with a slight advantage. They know at least one person all the others want out and will likely vote for.

Yes I mentioned that earlier ..


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[HettyLip]

Originally Posted by Jake.

i think he was talking about zelah and it just came out wrong tbh

In French?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by HettyLip

In French?

Sigh.



Je pense qu'il parlait de Zelah et pour ętre honnęte, c'était tout simplement faux




Ok ok, the coat is on.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by bots

when was there a rule that hm's must tell the truth?

They always put their own spin on everything and always have

I personally believe that a Housemate should own their moves.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Richard lied to Caroline when talking about Gani being up. He said his decision for the second nomination he fought his corner but was overruled.

But it was him championing for Gani to be the person up as Fayisola and George wanted Elsa.

He does seem a bit sneaky,but I also got the impression that conversation was a misunderstanding of crossed wires. Caroline thought he was saying he fought for Gani ,but what he meant was he regretted agreeing to put Zelah up . That's how I understood it

But of course when Caroline is telling George ,George is happy to basically say it's a load of rubbish .