[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Teja shows social awareness and an interest in politics, which I think is a good thing…

I agree this is a good thing. I would rather a person be politically active and wrong than politically lazy.

But, being aware ofc is not the same as being right.

This film is laughable in how it paints the police as evil monsters, and that's from me that doesn't like the police much. But here it is clearly done to a purpose.. It's propaganda.

The reason there is a disparity in stop and search is based on evident trends and events... Some groups are just over represented and therefore it makes sense to target them more when trying to prevent crime.

Honestly, come to St Pauls here in Bristol and I can show you what I mean.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I agree this is a good thing. I would rather a person be politically active and wrong than politically lazy.

But, being aware ofc is not the same as being right.

This film is laughable in how it paints the police as evil monsters, and that's from me that doesn't like the police much. But here it is clearly done to a purpose.. It's propaganda.

The reason there is a disparity in stop and search is based on evident trends and events... Some groups are just over represented and therefore it makes sense to target them more when trying to prevent crime.

Honestly, come to St Pauls here in Bristol and I can show you what I mean.

…the thing is for me when I came across the article and then looked up the vid…?…is that the Avon and Somerset police force had admitted at that time that it had “much more work to do” and had declared itself to be “institutionally racist”…so the video was in many ways, if not all ways to present an aspect of looking at ‘two sides of a community’ that needed work to bring together…Teja, was approached to take part, having friends who had been impacted so she was just part of presenting that and that perspective…I don’t see that as presenting itself as being right…I see it more as conversations open up and situations open up to be looked at by presenting all sides and all perspectives, that’s what creates understandings …(…for any who are open to understandings …)….

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…the thing is for me when I came across the article and then looked up the vid…?…is that the Avon and Somerset police force had admitted at that time that it had “much more work to do” and had declared itself to be “institutionally racist”…so the video was in many ways, if not all ways to present an aspect of looking at ‘two sides of a community’ that needed work to bring together…Teja, was approached to take part, having friends who had been impacted so she was just part of presenting that and that perspective…I don’t see that as presenting itself as being right…I see it more as conversations open up and situations open up to be looked at by presenting all sides and all perspectives, that’s what creates understandings …(…for any who are open to understandings …)….

The police here in Bristol, as much as anywhere, have been captured by the woke nonsense. They are the same people that bent the knee to BLM. It's all pandering nonsense.

I am 100% open to dialogue and understanding, but that ofc relies on both parties to come into it with honesty and good faith, which is something that the grievance culture of the 'left' will never do.

I am a white guy and I live in a very diverse neighbourhood in Bristol and can honestly say that I have received way more racism than I have ever seen towards others

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

The police here in Bristol, as much as anywhere, have been captured by the woke nonsense. They are the same people that bent the knee to BLM. It's all pandering nonsense.

I am 100% open to dialogue and understanding, but that ofc relies on both parties to come into it with honesty and good faith, which is something that the grievance culture of the 'left' will never do.

I am a white guy and I live in a very diverse neighbourhood in Bristol and can honestly say that I have received way more racism than I have ever seen towards others

…I mean, I can’t really give any personal experiences of Bristol or the policing there, I found the article and vid both interesting and with the very small conversation that Teja and George have had in the house so far…?….I’m feeling that maybe Teja was approached to take part because she does seem very reasoned/balanced in her perspective…and that’s always a perfect opening for looking at (local) issues etc …I recall back in the day, we used to have much community policing and obviously that’s been cut back in every area as well so with that…?…issues just grow and grow and grow, sadly….

…anyway, the article was interesting in its own right because the mentioned police force had proclaimed themselves to have specific issues and failings …


Avon and Somerset Police admitted at the time of the article that it had “much more work to do” after it declared itself “institutionally racist” the previous year.
Figures for the first five months of 2024 show black people were still six times more likely to be the subject of stop and search than white people in the Avon and Somerset area.
The force has published a report into its anti-racism strategy a year after evidence found a difference in the way it interacted with people from different ethnic and racial backgrounds.

…but yeah, it’s probably straying off into non BB/housemate territory but as a generalisation, it’s so great to see a young person such as Teja…not only showing great engagement in social issues but also engaging in discussing her views…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I mean, I can’t really give any personal experiences of Bristol or the policing there, I found the article and vid bit interesting and with the very small conversation that Teja and George have had in the house so far…?….I’m feeling that maybe Teja was approached to take part because she does seem very reasoned/balanced in her perspective…and that’s always a perfect opening for looking at (local) issues etc …I recall back in the day, we used to have much community policing and obviously that’s been cut back in every area as well so with that…?…issues just grow and grow and grow, sadly….

…anyway, the article the article was interesting in its own right because the mentioned police force had proclaimed themselves to have specific issues and failings …


Avon and Somerset Police admitted at the time of the article that it had “much more work to do” after it declared itself “institutionally racist” the previous year.
Figures for the first five months of 2024 show black people were still six times more likely to be the subject of stop and search than white people in the Avon and Somerset area.
The force has published a report into its anti-racism strategy a year after evidence found a difference in the way it interacted with people from different ethnic and racial backgrounds.

…but yeah, it’s probably straying off into non BB/housemate territory but as a generalisation, it’s so great to see a young person such as Teja…not only showing great engagement in social issues but also engaging in discussing her views also…

That's fair

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I agree this is a good thing. I would rather a person be politically active and wrong than politically lazy.

But, being aware ofc is not the same as being right.

This film is laughable in how it paints the police as evil monsters, and that's from me that doesn't like the police much. But here it is clearly done to a purpose.. It's propaganda.

The reason there is a disparity in stop and search is based on evident trends and events... Some groups are just over represented and therefore it makes sense to target them more when trying to prevent crime.

Honestly, come to St Pauls here in Bristol and I can show you what I mean.

…I will come to St Psul’s though, as you’re asking…what time is lunch…?…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I will come to St Psul’s though, as you’re asking…what time is lunch…?…

haha, come to Bristol, but it can do better than that