[MTVN]

[bots]

hmmm i think many high profile MP's have said worse, but it is diving into conspiracies

[vesavius]

It sounds like his views on this were just too nuanced to be packaged into a montage with music over the top.

In reality it was probably the standing with Israel that broke the camel's back.

Most lefties these days agree that Zionist global influence is a problem (not my words, just what I have seen the left and their Islamic allies say) so I can't see the producers caring much about that.

[GoldHeart]

Then why did BB bother putting him in the house? , they knew what George's views were ,yet they still put him in to then remove him....make it make sense .

[MTVN]

I'm not actually watching the interview but wonder what he means by being rage baited by the Wolfpack

It sounds a bit dodge to me, playing into classic conspiracies and saying that anti-Semitism could be justified

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by vesavius

It sounds like his views on this were just too nuanced to be packaged into a montage with music over the top.

[BBDodge]

So who are these antisemitic "wise men" that George likes to read?

[Liam-]

So he’s antisemitic as well and just generally ignorant and bigoted? No shock there really

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I'm not actually watching the interview but wonder what he means by being rage baited by the Wolfpack

It sounds a bit dodge to me, playing into classic conspiracies and saying that anti-Semitism could be justified

Yeah I'm not sure about the rage bait thing, sounds like he's saying they were pushing him into a debate.

But nobody can push George into a debate . Question is...if he never got a warning over the Sam comment, would this have still gotten him ejected??.

But then I think back to Lewis F .

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

So who are these antisemitic "wise men" that George likes to read?

And to what extent did he understand what he was reading?

To call Friedrich Nietzsche antisemitic would be wrong, and show only a surface level reading of his work, through the edited lense of his sister who wanted to support such ideas ... but it's still something that people think.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Liam-

So he’s antisemitic as well and just generally ignorant and bigoted? No shock there really

Yet, he stands with Israel.

So probably not antisemitic.

Believing that Zionism is a huge global influence and a problem puts him in the same place as 90% of the Labour party, tbh

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yet, he stands with Israel.

So probably not antisemitic.

Yeah exactly seems a bit contradictory,if he's so
' antisemitic ' .

My thoughts are.....he's not antisemitic,but he has verbal diarrhoea ,and he can't eloquently put his points across.

But it's bizarre if he thinks great leaders have
' antisemitic views' , again what does he mean by this ?.


And I'm not even a fan of George ,but I think he says ignorant stuff without knowing the full facts to everything.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah exactly seems a bit contradictory,if he's so
' antisemitic ' .

My thoughts are.....he's not antisemitic,but he has verbal diarrhoea ,and he can't eloquently put his points across.

But it's bizarre if he thinks great leaders have
' antisemitic views' , again what does he mean by this ?.


And I'm not even a fan of George ,but I think he says ignorant stuff without knowing the full facts to everything.

Most on the Left will tell you that being against Zionism and even Israel does not make you antisemitic.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah exactly seems a bit contradictory,if he's so
' antisemitic ' .

My thoughts are.....he's not antisemitic,but he has verbal diarrhoea ,and he can't eloquently put his points across.

But it's bizarre if he thinks great leaders have
' antisemitic views' , again what does he mean by this ?.


And I'm not even a fan of George ,but I think he says ignorant stuff without knowing the full facts to everything.

Yeah tbh I think he spends a lot of time online and just regurgitates crap he's read

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah tbh I think he spends a lot of time online and just regurgitates crap he's read

Oh 100 %

[bots]

knowing the political leanings of most of the house i'm struggling to understand how he was baited into saying antisemitic stuff

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bots

knowing the political leanings of most of the house i'm struggling to understand how he was baited into saying antisemetic stuff

I don't believe him when he says he was " baited" ,he loves an argument. My guess is ...the other housemates probably just disagreed with him ,or tried challenging him.

Out of the ' Wolfpack ' .....I can't see wallpaper Tate piping up ,and Marcus usually just sits in the
background, only one who probably debated him was Bolton Cameron,as he's more mouthy .

[Ammi]

…just watching this now but it seems to be an ongoing interview …he doesn’t really mention rage bait as such but just that the evening was very active and lively with debates on many subjects and also including conspiracy theories…he said that he’d like to end anti semitism in this country but to end something, then that would involve asking questions…he went in to say that some of the great minds in history such as Voltaire, Shakespeare, Roald Dahl, Cicero, Henry Ford…maybe some others he named, I can’t recall…anyway, what he considers to some very fine minds had anti semitic tropes…so was there some foundation, was their reasoning sound ….basically saying, does anti semitism exist for a reason….?….‘ no smoke without fire’ is basically what his comments could be interpreted as, surely…?…victim blaming at its absolute finest…

Youtube video

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by bots

knowing the political leanings of most of the house i'm struggling to understand how he was baited into saying antisemitic stuff

Yep, most Lefties are rabidly anti Zionist

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bots

knowing the political leanings of most of the house i'm struggling to understand how he was baited into saying antisemitic stuff

…he didn’t say that he was baited so far as I saw in the vid…he said that it had been a very lively ‘debate’ evening covering lots of subjects and there were many questions being asked…and that maybe he didn’t choose his words carefully because it was all pretty active and he was tired, maybe…but yeah, that kinda feels quite flimsy to me as well…/…what he said…

[Maru]

Interview for anyone who needs it (timestamped) https://www.youtube.com/live/eSeXcFW...tpSMto1&t=4113

[Withano]

I came to the thread expecting him to- or somebody else (on behalf of him) to downplay it.

This deserves the ejection for sure

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Maru

Interview for anyone who needs it (timestamped) https://www.youtube.com/live/eSeXcFW...tpSMto1&t=4113

…yeah I just posted it above but that might be a different version that you have, which would complete it because the interview seemed to be still ongoing live when I was watching…

[Maru]

He interviews terribly and sounds like a Z-tier politician.

He claims this line got him kicked: "Some of the finest minds in human history, such as Cicero, Shakespeare, Voltaire, Henry Ford, Rodale, some of the most intellectual men ever— each held anti-Semitic views in their writing"

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Withano

I came to the thread expecting him to- or somebody else (on behalf of him) to downplay it.

This deserves the ejection for sure

…yeah for sure, I think it does tbh…’he’s not saying as a fact’ but he’s asking and pondering that if great minds in history displayed anti semitic tropes then do we look at a ‘no smoke without fire’ view…?…



…and hey you…..