[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

This.

Airtime doesn't equal contribution to the entertainment of a series.

Sam has barely contributed more than Tate, Teja, and Nancy imo, and that's me being kind.

Barely, agreed, but barely is still more!

I wouldn't want Sam to win but I do think he is now being unfairly maligned because of his Caroline connection.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Barely, agreed, but barely is still more!

I wouldn't want Sam to win but I do think he is now being unfairly maligned because of his Caroline connection.

I think it's because TIBB is firmly a Richard fanclub unofficially, so Caroline and Sam are both probably getting harshly nitpicked at sometimes because they don't like Richard.

Basically BB fans have the mentality of a Football fan, especially Portsmouth fans after yesterday's result.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think it's because TIBB is firmly a Richard fanclub unofficially, so Caroline and Sam are both probably getting harshly nitpicked at sometimes because they don't like Richard.

Basically BB fans have the mentality of a Football fan, especially Portsmouth fans after yesterday's result.

Absolutely. This forum is 100% that. Agree.

I am feeling the burn from being an outsider this season

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Absolutely. This forum is 100% that. Agree.

I am feeling the burn from being an outsider this season

I'm used to it, as I had it during BB15 and the Lewis F year.

The latter being the more insufferable.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm used to it, as I had it during BB15 and the Lewis F year.

The latter being the more insufferable.

Yeah, it's ok, I don't mind being the underdog

It's all just BB banter at the end of the day, nothing serious

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yeah, it's ok, I don't mind being the underdog

It's all just BB banter at the end of the day, nothing serious

I 100% agree on this.

[millyrose]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm used to it, as I had it during BB15 and the Lewis F year.

The latter being the more insufferable.

I liked Lewis F too he was my favourite

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by millyrose

I liked Lewis F too he was my favourite

Tbf, I don't remember you being one of my issues on the Forum.

You always seem like a pretty chill member.

[millyrose]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf, I don't remember you being one of my issues on the Forum.

You always seem like a pretty chill member.

Thank you i do like to be chilled i just say who i like and don't like and what i think of HM's.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Absolutely. This forum is 100% that. Agree.

I am feeling the burn from being an outsider this season

I’m still recovering from being the outsider when I supported Hira.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I’m still recovering from being the outsider when I supported Hira.

Ahh, it's all part of the game. Next year everyone will love me because I am on board with the consensus

I have been here before

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Ahh, it's all part of the game. Next year everyone will love me because I am on board with the consensus

I have been here before

I supported Richard from the start before it became the trend, so I got lucky.

Last year I was rooting for Sarah so I escaped the Ali vs Khaled/Marcello wars.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Absolutely. This forum is 100% that. Agree.

I am feeling the burn from being an outsider this season

…I was a champion of Alex Rose Lee in the Aaron Allard Morgan season…that was such a difficult season in the weeks before the final/forum wise, it get very down and dirty…and for me it’ll always be the season of the burn because Alex Rose’s mom joined the forum and I know how upsetting it was for her…/…it started to get a personal tinge for me, which obviously it never should…

…I’m still thinking that Caroline could bring this home, so we’ll see…it’s not over until we all sing GET OUT of MA HOUsE…!!!!!!!!!….


…..

[Ammi]

…I will also say that I’ve just finished to listening to the latest Yazzfetto livefeed vid from yesterday and it was so easy to see the positive/supportive and encouraging Caroline of the younger housemates……when she’s less focused on Richard…?…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I was a champion of Alex Rose Lee in the Aaron Allard Morgan season…that was such a difficult season in the weeks before the final/forum wise, it get very down and dirty…and for me it’ll always be the season of the burn because Alex Rose’s mom joined the forum and I know how upsetting it was for her…/…it started to get a personal tinge for me, which obviously it never should…

…I’m still thinking that Caroline could bring this home, so we’ll see…it’s not over until we all sing GET OUT of MA HOUsE…!!!!!!!!!….


…..

Do you? That's interesting.

It actually would be hilarious for Caroline to win it. I don't even like her but I wouldn't be mad at that result at this point.

Hopefully there are some suprises left in the season yet

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Do you? That's interesting.

It actually would be hilarious for Caroline to win it. I don't even like her but I wouldn't be mad at that result at this point.

Hopefully there are some suprises left in the season yet

…yeah, I do think it’ll be a Caroline v Richard showdown in the final…and although I’m sure they would both like to win as well, I think there’s a huge part of each not wanting to be evicted before the other/…rivalry to the death……here and on other forums, I don’t think that it’s a huge representative of the voting fans/I think social media is the wider gage so that’ll be where the voting ‘power’ will lay, I reckon…I honestly couldn’t call it because they’re both so different and quite ‘marmite’ in their support…all in or all out…..

[Ammi]

…actually in the livefeed from yesterday that Yazzfetto posted, I’m warming a lot to Sam as well…hmmmmmm, not so much Nancy because I think she offers less…she’s Italian, did you know and multi-lingual…?…but Sam, the last few days I’m really warming to…he’s so easily open to being influenced is the tricky bit but I don’t see malice in him…

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Absolutely. This forum is 100% that. Agree.

I am feeling the burn from being an outsider this season

I think you are over reacting


I mean you basically made a thread saying members were stupid for liking Richard then you wonder why members might clap back?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think you are over reacting

I am sure that you do think that

Originally Posted by Cherie

I mean you basically made a thread saying members were stupid for liking Richard then you wonder why members might clap back?

I asked why can't people see though his game... You internalised that as me saying you were 'stupid'? That's why you are so mad at me?

I welcome clapback, it makes for a fun discussion, and I am not playing the victim here... It's just a fact that this is forum is pretty much a Richard fan club right now and not agreeing with that has made different people pretty hostile. That's all I was saying, and in a playful manner at that.

Honestly, I think you have misunderstood a couple of different times and are just mad at me for no reason. I am happy to be the underdog in the forum regarding my HM choice, it's actually fun.

I am allowed to say that I think he is successfully playing the audience though, because he is. This isn't me making a personal attack on your intelligence though at all, so it really shouldn't be taken that way and personalised.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I am sure that you do think that



I asked why can't people see though his game... You internalised that as me saying you were 'stupid'? That's why you are so mad at me?

I welcome clapback, it makes for a fun discussion, and I am not playing the victim here... It's just a fact that this is forum is pretty much a Richard fan club right now and not agreeing with that has made different people pretty hostile. That's all I was saying, and in a playful manner at that.

Honestly, I think you have misunderstood a couple of different times and are just mad at me for no reason. I am happy to be the underdog in the forum regarding my HM choice, it's actually fun.

I am allowed to say that I think he is successfully playing the audience though, because he is. This isn't me making a personal attack on your intelligence though at all, so it really shouldn't be taken that way and personalised.

Why would I be mad at you stop taking this so personally and making things personal, I usually enjoy your posts

but if you dont think the title of this thread implies people are stupid I cant help you

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...771&highlight=

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why would I be mad at you stop taking this so personally and making things personal

You seem to like trying to gaslight people, in all honesty. You do it constantly.

Originally Posted by Cherie

but if you dont think the title of this thread implies people are stupid I cant help you.. "oh god, Richard is such a cheesy put on.. how are you all falling for this?"]

See, this is what I talk about what I say that you seem to have a grudge... You keep going back to this thread title and have clearly taken it as a personal insult. Maybe it's time to let it go?

Look, the tone of your posts is usually pretty hostile and you keep on replying to me clearly trying to score cheap points. All this suggests to me that you are mad at me because I implied, in your mind, that you are 'stupid' for falling for Richard's gameplan. If this is wrong, I would be happy to see you just engage in friendly banter instead of this.

But, yeah, when it comes to Richard, how ARE you all falling for this?

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

Jenny is everything Caroline thinks she is, young, charismatic, witty... also, she's not trying as hard to be a villain. She's just Jenny.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think it's because TIBB is firmly a Richard fanclub unofficially,

My first fanclub and I can't even keep it properly

so Caroline and Sam are both probably getting harshly nitpicked at sometimes because they don't like Richard.

Basically BB fans have the mentality of a Football fan, especially Portsmouth fans after yesterday's result.

FWIW, I liked Caroline at entry and I still find her entertaining. But do I have sympathy for her suffering consequences after handcrafting her very own villain arc? No. Hell no. And it's not even to do with Richard, because I've loved Richard from almost the very beginning. Caroline has been messing with people since even before the thing with Zelah.

The only reason the Richard thing has gone on as long as it has imo is it only really works well with Richard because 1) White Christian male (so passive target) and 2) If she were to toy around emotionally with any of the other fragility-obsessed HMs, they're either not interpret that correctly or they will go into full meltdown and that's when OFCOM would be called. It's not worth getting ejected over at this point. It's a more level playing field also with Richard as they are both about the same age and so it's less likely to make her look like a villain and "more fun loving"... in theory...

Sam, I've never really taken to. He's just not that genuine. Haven't seen anything to the contrary and as much as I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, he's given nothing imv

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Barely, agreed, but barely is still more!

I wouldn't want Sam to win but I do think he is now being unfairly maligned because of his Caroline connection.

I can only speak for myself here, but its got nothing to do with Caroline, I cant stand his put on voice and his constant twerking and when he puts his finger to his lip which I think he thinks looks cute and the way way he flirted with Zelah even though he has a girlfriend, dont get me wrong it takes two, but if a woman flirted with a man who had a gf in the house and got into bed and cuddled him we all know what she would be tagged as