[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'll be honest,I haven't watched EE for 15 years. But what made me lose interest was the horrible baby swap storyline with Ronnie & Kat's babies. That was too far imo .

And I hated how Ronnie's character just kept going through depressing trauma. It felt like the writers had something against her . She's reunited with Danielle her long lost daughter ..boom she gets hit by a car and dies of course.


And hearing about how they killed off her & Roxy is just so ridiculous .

The 2010s was a wretched decade, with the baby-swap being the most-complained-about storyline to date (if I’m not mistaken) and … yeah. Ronnie and Roxy. Personally, I thought Ronnie was past her sell-by date by then and played out completely but her last few months were a certain kind of calm before the storm. The problem is they didn’t write Ronnie as they did in late 2016 after her first 18 months on the show. The way Danielle died and the effect it had on her was the beginning of the end and she went from being the fresh, vibrant, slightly mysterious breath of fresh air she was up-until that point to drowned in all things tragic, making holes in condoms and swapping babies (the culmination of it). 2014, give-but-not-take 2 months on either side, it … yeah. Only really decent year of the 2010s.

Chris Clenshaw was the last EP before the new guy (Ben Wadey) and he managed to give EastEnders the best era in at-least 15 years but Ben Wadey seems to be hell-bent on taking it back to the sh*te-fest. People who take the time to post on forums like Digital Spy and Walford Web are a very special kind of fan who know their way around their soaps in a timeless way, regardless of age, but otherwise, being an actual executive producer for a flagship-show (well, that it was in its prime, anyway) takes a fair bit of experience that a fresh 30-year-old won’t have. If he was immersed in the forum-dissection of these shows at any point, that would be something to go on in the absence of not too much experience but he doesn’t seem to have either. Hollyoaks-experience counts for almost nothing on a show like EastEnders. I saw through his credentials and knew he was going to be crap as soon as it was announced he’d be taking over and he’s not proved me, or any of the other people who were also skeptical about him right from the start, wrong so-far. His era reminds me of 2011/12, where Kat and Alfie were at their most toxic, Stacey was either going (and very unlikeable throughout most of 2010; having her kill Archie was … well, it could’ve been better-planned long-term) or gone, the new Moons, Joey incest-banging his cousin and Max being a sleazy stud just for the sake of it (Stacey/Max was different). And that’s not where EastEnders needs to be after Clenshaw turned it around so much and gave it some reputation after 10 solid years (minus the Who-Killed-Lucy year) of total crap.