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Niamh. · Yesterday, 12:22 PM

What was he playing at there? He sabotaged the task really which is fine if it was just him losing out but he took the opportunity away from Emily to go to the last round (not that she would have won the pass anyway but ya know)

FromBB8 · Yesterday, 12:25 PM

Emily didn't help either. I'm not sure why she started asking him about why he found her jarring and then, later, the kitchen dictator remark just before the eye fell. I don't think either of them were taking it overly seriously.

bots · Yesterday, 12:47 PM

it was a tactical play by Tate. He figured that Emily would go rather than him, so that would get him his place in the final

thesheriff443 · Yesterday, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

What was he playing at there? He sabotaged the task really which is fine if it was just him losing out but he took the opportunity away from Emily to go to the last round (not that she would have won the pass anyway but ya know)

Definitely sabotaged the the task

Cherie · Yesterday, 12:52 PM

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What was he playing at there? He sabotaged the task really which is fine if it was just him losing out but he took the opportunity away from Emily to go to the last round (not that she would have won the pass anyway but ya know)

Yeah I felt that as well, absolutely no need to be moving around, she did well to keep the eye up and he was the one that dropped in the end

I believe his thinking was that Emily did not deserve the final and they had been turned over by BB with the red eye/white eye thing when they thought Emily would come last

Niamh. · Yesterday, 01:00 PM

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Yeah I felt that as well, absolutely no need to be moving around, she did well to keep the eye up and he was the one that dropped in the end

I believe his thinking was that Emily did not deserve the final and they had been turned over by BB with the red eye/white eye thing when they thought Emily would come last

I was going to say but he should have known that the remaining HMs would 100% choose him for the final pass anyway but he probably didn't know at that point that that's how it would be decided

Ammi · Yesterday, 01:02 PM

…I liked the ‘revenge’ later on the late show of Tate being in jail and Emily throwing the tomatoes at him…

bots · Yesterday, 01:13 PM

i just want emily to survive longer than tate now. That would be a glorious "win"

FromBB8 · Yesterday, 01:22 PM

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…I liked the ‘revenge’ later on the late show of Tate being in jail and Emily throwing the tomatoes at him…

Imagine if it was Tate ranting at Emily whilst throwing tomatoes at her. I'm sure it would have been treated as a laugh then...

Ammi · Yesterday, 01:30 PM

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Imagine if it was Tate ranting at Emily whilst throwing tomatoes at her. I'm sure it would have been treated as a laugh then...

…what I’m imagining is that Emily has had very little and few moments that have brought her a smile/rather than tears in the lack of acceptance she’s felt from the house in general so it was lovely to see that smile …and all she got was reds in the end to ‘appreciate’ her impact…so this time she got to throw some reds…

FromBB8 · Yesterday, 01:36 PM

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…what I’m imagining is that Emily has had very little and few moments that have brought her a smile/rather than tears in the lack of acceptance she’s felt from the house in general so it was lovely to see that smile …and all she got was reds in the end to ‘appreciate’ her impact…so this time she got to throw some reds…

The smile came when she was able to rant and chuck tomatoes at someone who couldn't escape or fight back. Speaks volumes.

Ammi · Yesterday, 01:40 PM

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The smile came when she was able to rant and chuck tomatoes at someone who couldn't escape or fight back. Speaks volumes.

…I don’t understand why that would speak volumes when it was obviously part of the task to choose someone…/…that didn’t speak anymore volumes than any other task and when a housemate has been ‘the chosen one’ for something negative …

FromBB8 · Yesterday, 01:44 PM

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…I don’t understand why that would speak volumes when it was obviously part of the task to choose someone…/…that didn’t speak anymore volumes than any other task and when a housemate has been ‘the chosen one’ for something negative …

Her glee at doing it? Though obviously Cameron set it up at Big Brother's behest.

I'll say it again. If it was the other way round the reaction would not be isn't it nice to see Tate smile whilst ranting and throwing tomatoes at Emily. Or any other housemate, come to think of it!

Ammi · Yesterday, 01:56 PM

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Her glee at doing it? Though obviously Cameron set it up at Big Brother's behest.

I'll say it again. If it was the other way round the reaction would not be isn't it nice to see Tate smile whilst ranting and throwing tomatoes at Emily. Or any other housemate, come to think of it!

…when that’s something that had to be done and a choice had to be made etc…I do feel that approaching it with smiles and humour and trying to make as light of it as possible etc…is something that many people would do…I can’t imagine also how it would have been if Emily had been in floods of tears and looking devastated and distraught and throwing the tomatoes…/…a distraught that she was shown as being when she was bombarded with red eyes…it feels a bit that she can’t really do right for doing wrong, whatever her actions or reactions…and I’m thinking that’s how she herself has been feeling also, so many times…

FromBB8 · Yesterday, 02:02 PM

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…when that’s something that had to be done and a choice had to be made etc…I do feel that approaching it with smiles and humour and trying to make as light of it as possible etc…is something that many people would do…I can’t imagine also how it would have been if Emily had been in floods of tears and looking devastated and distraught and throwing the tomatoes…/…a distraught that she was shown as being when she was bombarded with red eyes…it feels a bit that she can’t really do right for doing wrong, whatever her actions or reactions…and I’m thinking that’s how she herself has been feeling also, so many times…

I'm just pointing out if it had been the other way round it would be jeered not cheered. Tate would be torn apart over it.

Ammi · Yesterday, 02:07 PM

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I'm just pointing out if it had been the other way round it would be jeered not cheered. Tate would be torn apart over it.

…well, I get that that’s your assumption and thought process etc but Emily and Tate don’t have the same house experiences in terms of so many aspects of actions and interactions etc and feelings of approval and acceptance…so it is hugely more layered than that to equate …(…in my opinion…)…it’s just not something that I can comment on without many layers that just aren’t there…

Niamh. · Yesterday, 02:11 PM

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…well, I get that that’s your assumption and thought process etc but Emily and Tate don’t have the same house experiences in terms of so many aspects of actions and interactions etc and feelings of approval and acceptance…so it is hugely more layered than that to equate …(…in my opinion…)…it’s just not something that I can comment on without many layers that just aren’t there…

Exactly

FromBB8 · Yesterday, 02:29 PM

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…well, I get that that’s your assumption and thought process etc but Emily and Tate don’t have the same house experiences in terms of so many aspects of actions and interactions etc and feelings of approval and acceptance…so it is hugely more layered than that to equate …(…in my opinion…)…it’s just not something that I can comment on without many layers that just aren’t there…

I appreciate this argument. I came back to the thread to say, thinking about it, I suppose the key difference is the Tate seems to be one of those who hold sway in there whilst Emily isn't, so any cutting down to size, as it were, may not hit him as hard as it would Emily. But then you had replied!

It does make me uncomfortable, but that's probably my issue to work through.

Ammi · Yesterday, 02:51 PM

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I appreciate this argument. I came back to the thread to say, thinking about it, I suppose the key difference is the Tate seems to be one of those who hold sway in there whilst Emily isn't, so any cutting down to size, as it were, may not hit him as hard as it would Emily. But then you had replied!

It does make me uncomfortable, but that's probably my issue to work through.

…yeah I do think that overall/from many housemates anyway…Tate has been made to feel very valued in the house because he’s been the house chef for a large amount of time…it doesn’t feel on any level that Emily has felt that sense of value at all…I don’t think that having tomatoes thrown for a task would detract or take away that sense of value for Tate …to be fair to your guy Tate…

…I hadn’t actually realised that he was the main person who cooked for the house…maybe it was just me who had missed that if it had been widely mentioned on highlights…but it does for me, give a bit of a different slant and thought on things like ‘bowl-gate’ and why he felt so annoyed and also why he was the shopping list person and concerned so anxious about Caroline doing it…anyway, I’m getting off topic so…overall the deciding tasks weren’t great tbh and then became pointless…(…Apprentice style…)…when it was all down to that ‘bid to win’ by the two finalists…every task for me has seemed to be taken from other reality shows in ideas…

FromBB8 · Yesterday, 02:56 PM

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…yeah I do think that overall/from many housemates anyway…Tate has been made to feel very valued in the house because he’s been the house chef for a large amount of time…it doesn’t feel on any level that Emily has felt that sense of value at all…I don’t think that having tomatoes thrown for a task would detract or take away that sense of value for Tate …to be fair to your guy Tate…

…I hadn’t actually realised that he was the main person who cooked for the house…maybe it was just me who had missed that if it had been widely mentioned on highlights…but it does for me, give a bit of a different slant and thought on things like ‘bowl-gate’ and why he felt so annoyed and also why he was the shopping list person and concerned so anxious about Caroline doing it…anyway, I’m getting off topic so…overall the deciding tasks weren’t great tbh and then became pointless…(…Apprentice style…)…when it was all down to that ‘bid to win’ by the two finalists…every task for me has seemed to be taken from other reality shows in ideas…

It does seems strange that so many have made a thing of Tate cooking yet we've barely seen him do it. There have been a couple of clips in the background when he's been doing something but, considering the kitchen has felt like a slightly bitter battleground, especially recently, there has been very little focus on it outside of Caroline's input last week.

The tasks have been awful for the most part. I did enjoy Perfect Day but I can honestly say that feels like it for this series. Everything else has come across to either mock, stir or both.

Ammi · Yesterday, 03:02 PM

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It does seems strange that so many have made a thing of Tate cooking yet we've barely seen him do it. There have been a couple of clips in the background when he's been doing something but, considering the kitchen has felt like a slightly bitter battleground, especially recently, there has been very little focus on it outside of Caroline's input last week.

The tasks have been awful for the most part. I did enjoy Perfect Day but I can honestly say that feels like it for this series. Everything else has come across to either mock, stir or both.

….an alternative version of Snog, Marry or Avoid…

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