[Ray.]

Originally Posted by Maru

Yes even Marcus got slightly better towards the end. He seemed rather sweet and no and not just because of the whole Elser thing...

I always thought Marcus probably got a very raw deal as far as the edit. If a HM wants to have a shot at actually getting across their personality to the viewing audience and not being tied down to one 'storyline' that sucks up all their airtime otherwise, the worst thing they can do is get involved in a showmance. In the times he was away from Elsa and interacting with, say, Tate or Richard, I thought he came across as a decent chap. I do still think he eventually caved to the thing with Elsa because he realised it was the only way he was going to get airtime lol. But that's because of the inklings he got from the outside world via constant interference from the producers, etc.

[millyrose]

Originally Posted by bots

i think people are viewing previous series with rose coloured glasses. There have been some absolute howlers over the years and this one would fit firmly in the middle. Not the worst by a big margin and not the best either

Spot on and a lot of the time it's all down to editing where they keep on showing certain HMs all the time and we don't get to see others

[rusticgal]

It was pretty dire...but I would say it sums up the world we live in all very PC..young people with attitude and entitlement and everyone getting labelled for everything they do.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ray.

I always thought Marcus probably got a very raw deal as far as the edit. If a HM wants to have a shot at actually getting across their personality to the viewing audience and not being tied down to one 'storyline' that sucks up all their airtime otherwise, the worst thing they can do is get involved in a showmance. In the times he was away from Elsa and interacting with, say, Tate or Richard, I thought he came across as a decent chap. I do still think he eventually caved to the thing with Elsa because he realised it was the only way he was going to get airtime lol. But that's because of the inklings he got from the outside world via constant interference from the producers, etc.

Mmmm

I think he genuinely fell for her .. understandably so .. he’s a bit old fashioned as well - he’s said numerous times that he didn’t want to go the whole hog on a tv show and would rather go out somewhere by themselves and then make things official

That’s the sign of an admirable young man

[Abra]

Yeah, I had to force myself to watch it for the last couple weeks.

The series really suffered from just becoming too repetitive, another episode of Caroline's vendetta against Richard after another, just felt so stagnant and boring. By the time she was evicted it felt too late to get invested in anything else

Elsa and Richard were my favourite housemates so at least it ended up with the strongest result.

[Zizu]

I struggle when there’s people who repulse me like Jenny and Caroline so I record it and fast forward whenever I can

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I struggle when there’s people who repulse me like Jenny and Caroline so I record it and fast forward whenever I can

I felt the same with zelah, feyishola and sam - just horrible fake self-obsessed woke people and terrible to watch