[Livia]

If the public know the extent of rapes, sexual assault and violence these people commit, there'd be riots in the streets.

[Glenn.]

Clearly there isn’t as many as you like to think there is. The far right media would have a field day to clamber to the frothing mouths of the racists.

You guys really do live in your own little worlds.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

Clearly there isn’t as many as you like to think there is. The far right media would have a field day to clamber to the frothing mouths of the racists.

You guys really do live in your own little worlds.

If you are referring to me I watch the news plus I’ve seen dozens of clips online , on YouTube and on X ..

There’s footage of real concerns / incidents to be seen all over the country.. things look pretty worrisome in parts of England the last place I would have expected to see

[Glenn.]

I wasn’t but it’s good to know where your sources come from. YouTube and X

Echo chambers.

Feel free to help Livia out and post the “extent” of the crimes and why it makes it acceptable to tar every immigrant with the same brush.

[Parmy]

https://youtu.be/OEXp25usQcM?si=2jpKTbllrvChxXXk

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

I mean, where do you even begin with this short "Christmas" video??

https://x.com/PatrickChristys/status...409854542?s=20

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[The i Weekend says that the Home Office
is set to start evicting asylum seekers from hotels,
ahead of new legislation planned for the spring.]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Youtube video

Yes
I think some Younger Migrants
See that fella AB,
Filming is a threat to them.

The First Evil Thug
got a Golf Club at one point to hit AB with it.


AB should have run faster away from that whole area
When he said "I am phoning the Police", it got even worse
as they outnumbered him.

The Hotel Security stayed well back
I wonder if they set this up?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
I think some Younger Migrants
See that fella AB,
Filming is a threat to them.

The First Evil Thug
got a Golf Club at one point to hit AB with it.


AB should have run faster away from that whole area
When he said "I am phoning the Police", it got even worse
as they outnumbered him.

The Hotel Security stayed well back
I wonder if they set this up?

Their rights trump ours, don't forget. The government told us. Probably the only time they've been honest with us about illegals.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Clearly there isn’t as many as you like to think there is. The far right media would have a field day to clamber to the frothing mouths of the racists.

You guys really do live in your own little worlds.

What planet you on?


There are court cases every day...the latest I saw was one migrant who is accused of raping a 72 he old woman and a 74 yr old man.


The stories don't make the news, but now that they are all beginning to come to the court date it has become daily cases in courts all over the country.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Parmy

What planet you on?


There are court cases every day...the latest I saw was one migrant who is accused of raping a 72 he old woman and a 74 yr old man.


The stories don't make the news, but now that they are all beginning to come to the court date it has become daily cases in courts all over the country.

Once justification has gone, denial is all they have

[GiRTh]

I'm not responding to anyone—I'm simply sharing my opinion. Whenever the UK discusses immigration, the same concerns keep arising, regardless of the decade. You often hear familiar phrases: "It feels different around here now," "Are they fitting in?" "I'm not sure about their culture," "Is this good or bad for jobs?" and "Are people playing by the rules?" Although different groups arrive, the worries remain consistent.

In the 1960s and 70s, the focus was on immigrants from the Caribbean and South Asia, significantly influenced by Enoch Powell's speech and Margaret Thatcher's 1978 interview, where she stated that many people felt the country was being "swamped". LINK While attitudes were mixed, those communities contributed immensely to work, culture, public services, and everyday life. Today, this contribution is widely recognised.

In the subsequent decades, immigrants arrived from Africa, South Asia, East Africa, Southeast Asia, and parts of Eastern Europe and the Balkans. The unrest in the 80s in Brixton, Toxteth, and Handsworth stemmed from long-term social and economic issues rather than immigration itself. The Stephen Lawrence case in the 1990s highlighted serious institutional problems that were unrelated to the number of incoming individuals.

The 2000s saw a rise in immigration from Central and Eastern Europe. By the 2010s, attention shifted once more—this time to individuals from Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and various parts of Africa—with Brexit bringing immigration back to the forefront of political discussion.

Looking at the broader picture, the pattern is clear: while the groups of people arriving change, the concerns people express remain essentially unchanged. This is why today's debates feel so similar to those of past decades.

[arista]

[You often hear familiar phrases:
"It feels different around here now,"
"Are they fitting in?"
"I'm not sure about their culture,"
"Is this good or bad for jobs?"
and "Are people playing by the rules?"]


Yes GiRTH

Valid Observations.
We need an import of Qualified Workers
to fill jobs.
They are Legit, paying taxes
and they go home with legit pay.


But Illegal Migrants
are nothing like our Legit Imported Men & Women workers.


Many Illegal Migrants get rid of their passports
a trick so they can stay in the UK.

They arrive in our Waters
France will never stop them..........................

[GiRTh]

Most people agree on one basic point: we want a system that’s fair and actually works. When someone comes here legally to fill needed jobs and pay taxes, it’s simple and easy to understand.

Where things get messy is irregular migration. People arrive that way for all kinds of reasons — some are fleeing danger, some don’t have any safe legal route, and some are following bad advice from smugglers. It’s not one group with one motive, and treating it like a single category doesn’t match reality.

The passport issue fits into that same complexity. Yes, some people hide their identity. Others do it because they’re scared of being sent straight back, and some are told to do it by smugglers. Again, it’s not one tactic used for one reason.

And the France situation isn’t simple either. Both countries have been trying to manage this for years. If there were an easy fix, it would’ve happened already.

At the end of the day, most people want the same thing: a firm, fair system that actually functions. Calm, grounded discussion gets us closer to that than assuming the worst about everyone involved.

[arista]

Over The Weekend,
Another 415 illegal migrants arrived.


And today
More illegal migrants arrived.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Most people agree on one basic point: we want a system that’s fair and actually works. When someone comes here legally to fill needed jobs and pay taxes, it’s simple and easy to understand.

Where things get messy is irregular migration. People arrive that way for all kinds of reasons — some are fleeing danger, some don’t have any safe legal route, and some are following bad advice from smugglers. It’s not one group with one motive, and treating it like a single category doesn’t match reality.

The passport issue fits into that same complexity. Yes, some people hide their identity. Others do it because they’re scared of being sent straight back, and some are told to do it by smugglers. Again, it’s not one tactic used for one reason.

And the France situation isn’t simple either. Both countries have been trying to manage this for years. If there were an easy fix, it would’ve happened already.

At the end of the day, most people want the same thing: a firm, fair system that actually functions. Calm, grounded discussion gets us closer to that than assuming the worst about everyone involved.

…I’ve just seen your post, Girth…excellent words……

[Parmy]

Are we to believe France and Britain, 2 of the world's main players aren't able to come together to stop a few boats crossing the channel!


They can manage the drugs!

[Livia]

Neither Labour nor the Tories ever had the will to stop the boats. They are the reason Reform is now the biggest party in the country. Although by the time the general election I can't imagine how ****ed the country will be or whether it can ever recover.