[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MiuMiu

Why did they need to condemn it?
Off course it's ant-christian. It's a pagan festival.
But aren't all christian feasts built upon pagan festivals anyways?
What next?
Condenming Christmas for being anti-chrisitan?
lol!

not built upon but there to rival and eclipse -which is precisely what they did

[Prole]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

not built upon but there to rival and eclipse -which is precisely what they did

Yeah, that's what you think. The saddest sight I see on a Sunday is the handful of elderly people wandering into the local chilly church so they can praise their God by singing songs about what terrible people they are. "Have mercy on us, miserable offenders". LOL... Actually most of them are probably not sinners at all, but good people. Meanwhile Pagans celebrate everything, nature, women, sex... all the stuff Christians tut-tut and get lemon-faced about.

Christianity tried to crush Paganism through force, using violence and torture you couldn't imagine, and could never justify if you could. But it failed. There are more people following Pagan traditions now than at any other time in history. Christianity is dwindling meanwhile, probably because people are wising up. Especially as the church seems to be represented sometimes by people like Leather Trumpet, who spout archaic poppycock and insult other religions. That's not a way to get people to convert to your way of thinking; it just makes people think you're blinkered and intolerant.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Prole

Yeah, that's what you think. The saddest sight I see on a Sunday is the handful of elderly people wandering into the local chilly church so they can praise their God by singing songs about what terrible people they are. "Have mercy on us, miserable offenders". LOL... Actually most of them are probably not sinners at all, but good people. Meanwhile Pagans celebrate everything, nature, women, sex... all the stuff Christians tut-tut and get lemon-faced about.

Christianity tried to crush Paganism through force, using violence and torture you couldn't imagine, and could never justify if you could. But it failed. There are more people following Pagan traditions now than at any other time in history. Christianity is dwindling meanwhile, probably because people are wising up. Especially as the church seems to be represented sometimes by people like Leather Trumpet, who spout archaic poppycock and insult other religions. That's not a way to get people to convert to your way of thinking; it just makes people think you're blinkered and intolerant.

Whilst practising Christians have been in decline in some Western countries, there has been a recent surge in 'membership' in parts of the West, and in the East the numbers who are becoming new Christians daily is astronomical. There are estimated now nearly 100 million Christians in China (compared with just 5,000 in the 1960s) and in South Korea, churches regularly have tens of thousands of members each. In one church, the Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, there are over 800,000 members who meet each Sunday in several sittings in a vast hall. It is difficult to give a definite answer to the actual number of Christians in the world (estimates range from 2 - 3 billion), Christianity remains the most dominant of the world religions, and is still growing at an astonishing rate.