[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by Rice_square

She was, I agree. but if we were judging just by singing we would still have Lucie, Rachel and probably Miss Frank. X Factor isn't just a singing contest though

True but it never was really was it a good sob story, good lucks and a half decent voice and a good P.R person is all you need

[bettiepage]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

True but it never was really was it a good sob story, good lucks and a half decent voice and a good P.R person is all you need

Well the first two series had a very nice lack of sob stories and was just really about the singing, but that changed as soon as we had the wheel chair woman and nikita in series three.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by Rice_square

Well the first two series had a very nice lack of sob stories and was just really about the singing, but that changed as soon as we had the wheel chair woman and nikita in series three.

Shane ward and leon jackson won it on looks and sob stories alone

[bettiepage]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

Shane ward and leon jackson won it on looks and sob stories alone

Leon won series four, and I didn't think Shayne had a sob story?

His looks obviously helped, but he did have quite a good voice.