[Crimson Dynamo]

Is there a consensus?

[Beastie]

good is heaven
evil is hell

[Ninastar]

Ughh this reminds me of this poem we just did in english. Its basically saying is there any good in evil or is there any evil in good.
Blehh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Ughh this reminds me of this poem we just did in english. Its basically saying is there any good in evil or is there any evil in good.
Blehh

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[Niamh.]

Batman is good
The Joker is evil????

[Lauren]

It's all socially constructed, but there's generally a universal understanding about what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'. However, as with everything, it's all labelled semantics.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Lauren

It's all socially constructed, but there's generally a universal understanding about what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'. However, as with everything, it's all labelled semantics.

Is it not based on evolutional survival?

We see good as anything that contributes to survival of the process of evolution, and evil with anything that destroys the furtherment of the fittest.

[Lauren]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Is it not based on evolutional survival?

We see good as anything that contributes to survival of the process of evolution, and evil with anything that destroys the furtherment of the fittest.

At it's basic level, yes - good point. But then some 'bad' things would be considered helpful to survival for the individual (stealing food when starving). It's all very subjective.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Lauren

At it's basic level, yes - good point. But then some 'bad' things would be considered helpful to survival for the individual (stealing food when starving). It's all very subjective.

I think a lot of evil comes from our basic need to be valued

[Captain.Remy]

The notion of good and evil depends on the culture. What is considered good in one society, is bad in another and vice versa. However, we all share some values (killing human is evil, helping people is good) yet we still can have differences (in some societies, killing a woman in public for daring to look at a man is good therefore normal etc...) so it's all subjective.

To stereotype a bit, what's good is defined as what can you do to make people happy, not to offend anyone, be honest and live a simple life.
What is bad is what does harm people, cheating, lying, being mean etc...

But then I think we shouldn't fall into what we call a division of the 2. Things aren't all white and black, they are grey.

[arista]

We all have Evil to give out
Even Lauren - at some point in her life will become Evil for a moment.

[Niamh.]

If you treat people the way you would like to be treated yourself than I think that's good

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

If you treat people the way you would like to be treated yourself than I think that's good

Exactly. Basically I'm good and Niamhs evil.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

If you treat people the way you would like to be treated yourself than I think that's good

Are you getting all Jesus on us?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Are you getting all Jesus on us?

Nope, that's what I think

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by setanta

Exactly. Basically I'm good and Niamhs evil.

haha, the other way round I'd say!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

The notion of good and evil depends on the culture. What is considered good in one society, is bad in another and vice versa. However, we all share some values (killing human is evil, helping people is good) yet we still can have differences (in some societies, killing a woman in public for daring to look at a man is good therefore normal etc...) so it's all subjective.

To stereotype a bit, what's good is defined as what can you do to make people happy, not to offend anyone, be honest and live a simple life.
What is bad is what does harm people, cheating, lying, being mean etc...

But then I think we shouldn't fall into what we call a division of the 2. Things aren't all white and black, they are grey.

GW.Bush/Blair/ UnElected Brown
are all Evil
for not stopping Evil Yank Carpet Bombing of the General Public in Iraq.
Fact.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

haha, the other way round I'd say!!

Ohh, cheeky. I'm actually nice, even if I'm argumentative on occassion. No no, opinionated is the word but sure so are you with me sometimes.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by setanta

Ohh, cheeky. I'm actually nice, even if I'm argumentative on occassion. No no, opinionated is the word but sure so are you with me sometimes.

Wouldn't it be boring otherwise??!!!

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Wouldn't it be boring otherwise??!!!

Exactly, and sure we like it hot and spicy with our drinks and conversations!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by setanta

Exactly, and sure we like it hot and spicy with our drinks and conversations!

[BB_Eye]

It's all relative. We are beyond the point now where we can give any definitive account of what good or evil is. When you think about it, we are all monsters in some way or another, we are guided irrationally by our survival and procreative instincts. This is the only constant. Ethical guidelines come and go.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

It's all relative. We are beyond the point now where we can give any definitive account of what good or evil is. When you think about it, we are all monsters in some way or another, we are guided irrationally by our survival and procreative instincts. This is the only constant. Ethical guidelines come and go.

does that mean that we then cannot trust science?

[setanta]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

does that mean that we then cannot trust science?

You never fail to baffle me with your questions, I have to hand that to you. Science can be trusted because it allows us to communicate right now but I'm not quite sure that you can relate to the conflict that humanity faces between what's morally or ethically right. Science can be a tool for evil or good, but it's not good or evil itself. There's no morality involved with science, only in how we chose to harness it.