[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Stu

Will The Bible?

Genesis : God made all this ****. The end.

It's a helluva lot more rational, logical and scientific than your '0+0 = something' and your 'Nuttindidit' explanation for complex working information systems.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

It's a helluva lot more rational, logical and scientific than your '0+0 = something' and your 'Nuttindidit' explanation for complex working information systems.

Again, I don't believe in something coming from nothing. I already told you this. I do believe in some sort of greater cosmic force. Just not your one. And just not your big book of Jewish myths and legends. Sorry.

Of course many books in The Bible describe the earth as being flat, and that stars as being merely dots in the sky that could theoretically rain down on us. And that everything orbits the earth. And numerous other geographical contradictions we now know to be bullshit.

I thought it was meant to be the word of God? You telling me he dosn't know his own construction site?

Want some more? Sweet. So do I :

The Bible is a hodepodge collection of oral history, poetry, legend, myth, geneology, prophesy and visions, some of which date back to nomadic tribes in the Middle East. The problem with oral histories is that they change over time, and there is no way to verify what the original version of any of the accounts in the work might have looked like.

The oral histories that were eventually included in the Bible were written down by different groups of people over centuries, and copied by hand numerous times, introducing changes and inaccuracies in the process as with any text that is copied (witness the variations in Shakespeare's folios).

Numerous versions of chapters that have been included in the Bible by various groups (Jews, Gnostics and Christians) exist, and arbitrary decisions have been made as to which ones to include in what is accepted as the modern Christian version of the Bible. Chapters that have at one time or another been included and then removed from the Bible are called the Apocrypha. Some of these, most notably what are believed to be Gnostic texts, differ radically from the currently accepted version of the Bible.

Both the Old Testament and the New have numerous internal contradictions that render any attempt to deem words of the Bible literally true impossible. For example, there are two different accounts of creation in the Old Testament and major contradictions among accounts of the life of Jesus in the New Testament.

Linguistic and textual analysis of the Bible has demonstrated that some chapters have elisions or additions made by different authors, making a determination of the 'original' or 'true' version of the Bible problematic.

There is ample evidence that some elisions and additions to some chapters were made for political reasons, or to express a religious viewpoint that differed from that held by the original author of the chapter.

Historical sources show that the New Testament is factually inaccurate on matters including the reign of Herod and the Roman census.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Stu

Want some more? Sweet. So do I :

Yes, you love false analysis, contrived 'contradictions' and sarcastic 'flames' and some of the worst biblical interpretation and scholarship I have ever seen.. worse than Dawkins even.
So yeah.. I do believe that is 'sweet' tasting to you and you want more and more of it.
I have no doubt about it.

'flat earth'

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Yes, you love false analysis, contrived 'contradictions' and sarcastic 'flames' and some of the worst biblical interpretation and scholarship I have ever seen.. worse than Dawkins even.
So yeah.. I do believe that is 'sweet' tasting to you and you want more and more of it.
I have no doubt about it.

'flat earth'

Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.

Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH

Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them





And consdering The Bible was written by man, without any divine influence, and considering all but the most radical of men believed the earth to be flat at the time, it's safe to assume The Bible has been written from the viewpoint of the earth being flat.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Stu

...And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor ...

Thanks for proving my point about 'worst interpretation ever' because if you ACTUALLY believe you are to be comprehending that as an 'actual map' and really believe the writer is trying to communicate to you real physical dimensions...
...then you are in SERIOUS need of some help with reading comprehension.
I mean Im not even joking when I say that our 11 year olds don't even get confused about that.

Also, if you actually knew anything about these Jews you would know that guys like Moses were raised in Egypt and Jews came out of Sumeria (and had their own things of course),
and,
ABSOLUTELY KNEW THE EARTH WAS A SPHERE.
Didn't just 'know it' but they had EXCELLENT astronomy.
Its actually sad we lost so much of that and only recently are catching up to them.

Wow.. just sad you cannot even comprehend the most basic hermeneutics even children can grasp.

But no.. Im not interested in you just copying and pasting huge chunks of text from 'infidels' or whatever 'online atheist' websites.
Especially not stupid ones like that.
Especially not from someone who ACTUALLY thought they were reading some physical directions from those verses.
Wow.
Just wow.