[Brad.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Hark at you! And you are right about one thing - you are not my mate, don't think we have a lot in common!

Disliking the hms that you like is not ignorance and expressing that opinion is not ignorance! How about you listening to the opinions of those that don't like him - works both ways!

In my opinion, what is really ignorant is presuming that your opinion is fact - and that anyone that doesn't agree has no right to express that opinion - because you don't like it! Not everyone finds the meatheads entertaining - a point that seems completely lost on you!

I know that the housemates I like aren't the ones that everyone likes, that much is obvious and it would be boring if everyone liked the same ones as me anyway. The thing that I think is ignorant is when you ignore the fact that Vinnie was clearly asked a question, to which he gave a simple answer, which was not even slightly boastful, just pure fact.

I listen well to the opinions of every member on this site and I obviously don't agree with them all, so stop trying to make me look like the bad person here, because I'm not. I don't mind people disagreeing with me either, but I think you do.

I thought we discussed this earlier; Vinnie is not a "meathead" and he doesn't deserve such a disrespectful label. Nobody in the house deserves to be labelled like that. You may not like housemates but after only three days in the house, you already call someone who you obviously don't know much about a "meathead".

So, I would appreciate it if you dropped your unneccesarily shouty and aggressive attitude, listened to the points that Chels, Niamh and others have been making in this thread and actually realised that you are the one who is jumping down people's throats for supposedly, "not listening to the opinions of others who don't like him (Vinnie)".

[HellShark]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Im going to agree with the pretty asian girl on this one.. ..even though he is not very well known outside the UK - I have to give him credit for coming from a real place in life (I heard he grew up in tough and poor conditions but maybe thats rumours),
and,
he actually trained and played a sport and did tough it out,
and,
from what I can tell he is genuinely trying to become an actor and putting real effort into it here,
and,
his reality television show was not a joke thing.. he was in real serious and dangerous places AND he never 'acted hard man' and genuinely admired and credited the cops for being braver than he was etc.

So I got to give Vinnie credit where its due - he has done 100 and 1000 times more,
more effort,
hard work,
earned successes,
more earned fame (for right reasons) than pretty much anyone else in there.

Not saying that is boasting rights either but if he was asked then of course he will say.

Why do you paragraph your posts in such a ridiculous way?

[supergirthuk]

Has anyone told him homemovies with the wife and kids on holiday dont count?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Brad.

I know that the housemates I like aren't the ones that everyone likes, that much is obvious and it would be boring if everyone liked the same ones as me anyway. The thing that I think is ignorant is when you ignore the fact that Vinnie was clearly asked a question, to which he gave a simple answer, which was not even slightly boastful, just pure fact.

I listen well to the opinions of every member on this site and I obviously don't agree with them all, so stop trying to make me look like the bad person here, because I'm not. I don't mind people disagreeing with me either, but I think you do.

I thought we discussed this earlier; Vinnie is not a "meathead" and he doesn't deserve such a disrespectful label. Nobody in the house deserves to be labelled like that. You may not like housemates but after only three days in the house, you already call someone who you obviously don't know much about a "meathead".

So, I would appreciate it if you dropped your unneccesarily shouty and aggressive attitude, listened to the points that Chels, Niamh and others have been making in this thread and actually realised that you are the one who is jumping down people's throats for supposedly, "not listening to the opinions of others who don't like him (Vinnie)".

There you go again! Who says it was fact, you! He answered in a boastful way - some believe that, some don't - your opinion is not fact!

Stop getting on your high horse - just because my opinions don't agree with yours. You are happy to back-up so called 'shouty' posts when they like the same hms as you - don't try and impose your double-standards on me!

And I do know about Vinnie Jones and I don't like him. Accept that. In my opinion he is a meathead - and I have every right to express that opinion. If you have a problem with so called 'shouty' posters - then have a go at those that swear etc (which, by the way, I recall you doing on many occasions) and not at my exclamation marks - where is the logic in that?

You are the aggressive one by jumping on my posts and trying to tell me where I can post. You are not a moderator - delusions of grandeur!

[30stone]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

I'm confused and too lazy to check IMDB,
but,
there is no way he has made 50 films?

44 According to imdb, 6 arent out yet..

But there has been some big names..

Lock Stock
Gone in 60 Seconds
Snatch
Swordfish
Night at the Golden Eagle
Mean Machine
Eurotrip
Xmen the last stand
Garfield (voice)
The Condemned

And some smaller ones and shows..

[yousoboo!]

Originally Posted by Chels

but he was explaining to the group not just alex.
they were all listening but alex asked the question.

it was the quick glance over though. it was all in the eyes. I don't hate the guy or anything. I just love the fact that he isn't the alpha male.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by yousoboo!

it was the quick glance over though. it was all in the eyes. I don't hate the guy or anything. I just love the fact that he isn't the alpha male.

I don't know has an "alpha male" been established yet in there, it's far too early to tell

[supergirthuk]

I agree with Chels on this that he was asked the question and he wasnt name dropping as such but just a bit star-struck himself and answering in more of a "I cant believe it myself" tone I would have said. According to imdb he has done 43 movies included in these are voices for animations and bizarrely Gamesmaster?? Although, I cant stand him from his football days (or was that thug days) and dont rate him as a particularly good actor (from what I have seen and beleive me that really isnt much) I have got to say I am suprised at him getting so much work and it is a testament to him that he has worked so much over the last 12 years.
As for him being a legend I dont think so. He is as much of a celebrity as anyone else in there though.

[yousoboo!]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I don't know has an "alpha male" been established yet in there, it's far too early to tell

no it hasn't but vinnie is so used to having that role straight away.

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

There you go again! Who says it was fact, you! He answered in a boastful way - some believe that, some don't - your opinion is not fact!

Stop getting on your high horse - just because my opinions don't agree with yours. You are happy to back-up so called 'shouty' posts when they like the same hms as you - don't try and impose your double-standards on me!

And I do know about Vinnie Jones and I don't like him. Accept that. In my opinion he is a meathead - and I have every right to express that opinion. If you have a problem with so called 'shouty' posters - then have a go at those that swear etc and not at my exclamation marks - where is the logic in that?

You are the aggressive one by jumping on my posts and trying to tell me where I can post. You are not a moderator - delusions of grandeur!

Wombai, you're not helping yourself here by constantly going over points you have made earlier which I have already answered.

Your opinion was that Vinnie answered the question in a boastful way, which, as we have already discovered is incorrect. He was asked the question, he answered it. Later, he was asked the question, "What is the highest budget film you've been in?" and he said the name of the film (which I cannot remember off the top of my head) and then said how much the budget was. I really don't see any problem with that. People would have complained he was being too "nicey" if he had purposefully tried to avoid boasting by not answering some simple questions.

I'm not on a high horse at all, you just seem to be the one with a lack of grammar skills, and you can't admit it. Obviously I don't know if you're angry but the constant exclamation marks seem to be an aggressive thing. This leads me onto my next point; I have the right to call you a "meathead" if you're calling Vinnie one because you believe that he comes across in an aggressive manor and that's how I believe you come across (of course, I could be wrong here).

Check my last post, in there I said that I understood that people supported different housemates from me and I'm absolutely fine with that, so why don't you get that into your head. What I don't like is when people make statements but then cannot back them up with any evidence, which is what you are persistently doing.

I don't actually "back up" members who are shouty when they are backing Vinnie, because the members on here that like him are sensible (in my opinion) and don't come across as shouty and aggressive. Swearing is not always seen as an aggressive thing, it is just a form of expressing your feelings (not always in an angry way, only when insulting something or someone).

How many times have I already had to tell you; you can post anywhere on this forum, nobody is stopping you but you can't seem to grasp that concept. After every post I have made in this thread, you make a reply, and as you're making that reply, you seem to forget everything in the previous post that you're replying to - for me, that is the most infuriating thing. Also, it's quite obvious I'm not a moderator, so don't bother trying to make me sound as though I can tell you where you can and cannot post because I've already told you many times that I don't care where you post.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by yousoboo!

no it hasn't but vinnie is so used to having that role straight away.

How do you know that? I doubt it in the circles he's in, I'm quite sure he's usually not the alpha male as he's usually working with bigger stars than himself!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Brad.

Wombai, you're not helping yourself here by constantly going over points you have made earlier which I have already answered.

Your opinion was that Vinnie answered the question in a boastful way, which, as we have already discovered is incorrect. He was asked the question, he answered it. Later, he was asked the question, "What is the highest budget film you've been in?" and he said the name of the film (which I cannot remember off the top of my head) and then said how much the budget was. I really don't see any problem with that. People would have complained he was being too "nicey" if he had purposefully tried to avoid boasting by not answering some simple questions.

I'm not on a high horse at all, you just seem to be the one with a lack of grammar skills, and you can't admit it. Obviously I don't know if you're angry but the constant exclamation marks seem to be an aggressive thing. This leads me onto my next point; I have the right to call you a "meathead" if you're calling Vinnie one because you believe that he comes across in an aggressive manor and that's how I believe you come across (of course, I could be wrong here).

Check my last post, in there I said that I understood that people supported different housemates from me and I'm absolutely fine with that, so why don't you get that into your head. What I don't like is when people make statements but then cannot back them up with any evidence, which is what you are persistently doing.

I don't actually "back up" members who are shouty when they are backing Vinnie, because the members on here that like him are sensible (in my opinion) and don't come across as shouty and aggressive. Swearing is not always seen as an aggressive thing, it is just a form of expressing your feelings (not always in an angry way, only when insulting something or someone).

How many times have I already had to tell you; you can post anywhere on this forum, nobody is stopping you but you can't seem to grasp that concept. After every post I have made in this thread, you make a reply, and as you're making that reply, you seem to forget everything in the previous post that you're replying to - for me, that is the most infuriating thing. Also, it's quite obvious I'm not a moderator, so don't bother trying to make me sound as though I can tell you where you can and cannot post because I've already told you many times that I don't care where you post.

Your'e doing it again! Who has established that it is incorrect - you and fellow Vinnie fans - that is just opinion, nothing more - what part of that don't you understand.

And you have on many occassions backed up other very shouty, sweary Marcus fans. Don't tell my you haven't - because I know you have. You have also made a lot of shouty, sweary posts in support of him - you are being a total hypocrite! Swearing is not aggressive, but exclamation marks are - what planet are you on - talk about conveniently justifying whatever suits you! Your argument is totally one-sided and your judgement completely clouded by your liking of the alpha male types. Good on you.

Like it or not I will continue with my oh so aggressive exclamation marks - and you can continue with your non-aggressive swearing!

[Chels]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Your'e doing it again! Who has established that it is incorrect - you and fellow Vinnie fans - that is just opinion, nothing more - what part of that don't you understand.

what is opinion? the fact vinnie was asked the questions?
well that is not an opinion it's fact. vinnie answered, end of.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Chels

what is opinion? the fact vinnie was asked the questions?
well that is not an opinion it's fact. vinnie answered, end of.

Fact - he was asked the question.

Opinion - whether his answer was boastful or not!

End of!

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by 30stone

44 According to imdb, 6 arent out yet..

But there has been some big names..

Lock Stock
Gone in 60 Seconds
Snatch
Swordfish
Night at the Golden Eagle
Mean Machine
Eurotrip
Xmen the last stand
Garfield (voice)
The Condemned

And some smaller ones and shows..

Garfield? I'm quite impressed....

[Chels]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Fact - he was asked the question.

Opinion - whether his answer was boastful or not!

End of!

speak for yourself - you're the one saying he was boasting and trying to tell everyone else you were right!

[Shaun]

He has had a pretty successful career...whether or not he's a good actor is another matter entirely Typecast comes to mind.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Chels

speak for yourself - you're the one saying he was boasting and trying to tell everyone else you were right!

Er no - Brad is the one stating that the FACT had been ESTABLISHED that he was not! Simply not true!

[MojoNixon]

Vinnie is a w*nker

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Vinnie is a w*nker

Oh Brad will like that - no exclamation marks!

[Brad.]

Wombai your arguments are beyond laughable. Oh, and even as I'm writing this post you come up with another ridiculous post. You don't show support for any housemate, so what are you doing on this forum?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Brad.

Wombai your arguments are beyond laughable. Oh, and even as I'm writing this post you come up with another ridiculous post. You don't show support for any housemate, so what are you doing on this forum?

Oh yes I do, know-it-all - I suggest you read some more of the threads. I like Stephanie, Jonas, Stephen and one or two others. So what is your problem with that! You are the laughable one - trying so hard to put me down! Just personal nonsense! Go bother someone else - bored now!

So now you are trying to tell people not only where they should post, but whether or not they belong on this forum! Maybe it is you that shouldn't be on here if you are going to be so 'sensitive' about exclamation marks!

[Chels]

how on earth is brad trying to put you down?
he's a nice guy who's sticking up for his favourite that's all.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Chels

how on earth is brad trying to put you down?
he's a nice guy who's sticking up for his favourite that's all.

Which he is fully entitled to do - but not by jumping on my posts and making false allegations - especially when they are completely hypocritical!

[Brad.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Oh yes I do, know-it-all - I suggest you read some more of the threads. I like Stephanie, Jonas, Stephen and one or two others. So what is your problem with that! You are the laughable one - trying so hard to put me down! Just personal nonsense! Go bother someone else - bored now!

So now you are trying to tell people not only where they should post, but whether or not they belong on this forum! Maybe it is you that shouldn't be on here if you are going to be so 'sensitive' about exclamation marks!

Nah I just mentioned the exclamation marks because they make your posts seem immature and pathetic. Read my earlier posts in this thread because you are incapable of holding up any kind of argument in any debate.

How am I a "know-it-all" by the way? Too smart for you?