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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Because that particular area of crime is one of the worst kinds - where people get killed! And I did read the statistics you mention, doesn't change the fact that certain minority groups are more responsible for violent crime including gun crime. If they are a minority group - how come they are most responsible for that type of crime? They are not the only group living in those conditions - so as far as I can see, that does not excuse it!

gawd. you talking round and round, repeating yourself.zzzz For the 3rd time none disagree that crime among disadvantaged minorities is higher than the average. This isn't news to anyone so slamming that on the table with the phrase "here are da facts" isn't getting you the win. It's like your arguing with yourself and then patting yourself on the back. Here's the point.... your using THAT fact to back up your point. My question is what is your point? Have the ballz to say it. Are you saying that Asians or Muslims are naturally "bad" or do you agree with us that there are MANY factors on both sides that have led to the situation being what it is. Your point about "other" disadvantages minorities not being involved in crime is a massive fail. It suggests that it must be something specifically about asian or muslim culture or religion. That's why you come across as racist. Follow through with your argument because stating the obvious is a waste. Other minorities have been in the UK longer and have settled and don't have the stigma of "muslim" attached to them. It's an unfair and stupid comparison. Here in Australia in the 60's Greeks and Italians were the target of racism, accused of and had higher crime rates and were ghettoised. 15 years later they were accepted, moved out of the few suburbs they lived in and spread out through the city as they became more affluent... crime rates for Greeks and Italian went way down to the nation average. In the 70's the same thing happened with Vietnamese arrivals , and again in the 80's with the Lebanese, 90's South Americans, 00's Somalis, Sri Lankans and Afghans. Your comparison doesn't take into account that over time a society will at first "tolerate" and the respect and love new cultures. Comparing minorites totally ignores that point. What matters...is the general society welcoming or is it filled with retarded racist co*kwits that have loser lives and need to blame their failures on someone else.
Ps You keep saying that anyone with a view other than yours must be trying to "excuse" crime. This is a cheap and nasty shot and makes you look desperate for a "win". Just think it through.... isn't a topic as huge as this worth a little more thought or do think it just has a simple answer?