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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sydney
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Location: Sydney
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"I have already said in one post that I do believe there is a cultural aspect to it" yes you did... but I didn't. Your not getting that the example I used re Australia's migrant intake. People from all of these cultures at one time or another had higher than average crime rates during the initial intake which tailored off after a decade or so as they were accepted. That each of these diverse cultures initially had THE SAME problems points to a other factors of acceptance and tolerance from the society as a whole rather than them coming from "countries with violent cultures". This example answered you point about other disadvantaged groups but you missed it. It's not uselful to compare one group that has been in society for 50 years to a group of migrants from another country that has come more recently? Then you added the example of "uneducated whites" ( jeez are like 60 years old... that's cold) ... here your not comparing like with like given that anglo/celtic working class are NOT routinely discriminated against etc. Their experiences of what it means to be British and in the UK is way too different to be able to make any usable argument.
"And how does saying that culture can affect behaviour make someone racist"
dude that's you arguing with YOU again. When did I say culture CAN"T influence behaviour? WHen did I say you were racist... dude are you reading my post or just projecting some other argument where you got labelled a racist onto me? While I'm at it don't act like I'm patronising you just because I disagree with you. This persecution complex of yours where your the victim and I'm the evil guy inflicting a "barrage" sounds like that sad act lady sov "don't patronise me!!". Just argue your point mate " there's a good boy" :P.
"Different cultures have different ways of doing things, different ways of thinking about things...etc"
Not so different... we're all humans and if it's a hard ask to respect other cultures then buddy that boat as long since sailed. ( I am convinced your 60 years old). Multicultualism works but it takes an effort to learn and be curisous about other cultures. It's a two way street and yeah some immagrants feel left out, they get rubbished and mocked and naturally feel more of a connection to their homeland and resentful of the UK. That's not a failing on their part but a failing on UK society. eg If some extremist Imams can fool a group of brumy ( spelling?) asian boys who had never even seen a quran in their lives to blow up innocent people in buses and trains then what does that say about UK society? No I'm not condoning 7/7 you noob, I'm saying what else can UK society learn from it? Why was it so easy for these imams to turn them? Why did these kids feel like there was no place for them in today's UK?. Clearly they were meatheads and easily fooled but why were they so up for it? It was becasue they were on the outer from day one and they knew it and felt it. In a shop, on the street, on tibb... they'd feel it and know it.... daily. If you guys want multiculturalism to work ( and you have ZERO choice in that) then make an effort instead of writing off whole cultural segments of your population with Arista's daily mail logic. That sh*t is good for selling papers but not for much else.
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