[Shasown]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Yes, I think it should be compulsory, but also subsidised, perhaps on some sort of means tested basis. Anything that helps reduce accidents and road deaths is paramount. Too many idiotic drivers out there - how they ever passed their driving test is a complete mystery! I also think people should be re-tested every ten years - every 2 years in the case of newly qualified drivers and the elderly.

So if it were to become compulsory, why not just include all the modules within the training prior to sitting a driving test?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shasown

So if it were to become compulsory, why not just include all the modules within the training prior to sitting a driving test?

Yes, maybe - but I think people get lazy and into bad habits once passing their test - regular re-tests would hopefully keep them on the ball, so to speak!

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Yes, maybe - but I think people get lazy and into bad habits once passing their test - regular re-tests would hopefully keep them on the ball, so to speak!

Very true, people do get lazy, but are extra compulsory tests the way forward? Some people simply train for tests then throw what they have learnt out of the window, other will still allow bad habits to develop after passing or even repassing.

Would compulsory training after a driving test reduce the likelihood of people having accidents on the road? A boy racer will still feel invincible after he had passed both the normal driving test and the Pass Plus, possibly even more invincible and take greater risks.

Emphasis on driving being a continually learning experience and cheaper access to voluntary scheme such as the Pass Plus and the school of Advanced Motorists training and Assessment schemes may produce better results.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Very true, people do get lazy, but are extra compulsory tests the way forward? Some people simply train for tests then throw what they have learnt out of the window, other will still allow bad habits to develop after passing or even repassing.

Would compulsory training after a driving test reduce the likelihood of people having accidents on the road? A boy racer will still feel invincible after he had passed both the normal driving test and the Pass Plus, possibly even more invincible and take greater risks.

Emphasis on driving being a continually learning experience and cheaper access to voluntary scheme such as the Pass Plus and the school of Advanced Motorists training and Assessment schemes may produce better results.

Valid point - it is hard know what route is best. I just think that the people most in need of extra training are least likely to take it up on a voluntary basis.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Valid point - it is hard know what route is best. I just think that the people most in need of extra training are least likely to take it up on a voluntary basis.

Yeah very true. Once people pass their tests, they think thats it, they always see the faults in other peoples driving, very few consider their own.

However, the Pass Plus training scheme is fairly extensive and is broken down into 6 modules, to make it compulsory for everyone would be a bit of an overkill. The costs of setting it up to become compulsory for everyone may be prohibitive.

What would happen for example to the nervous middle aged lady who uses her car to go shopping and would never dream of ever driving on a motorway, should she be made to sit the motorway driving module? If exceptions were made like this how would you enforce it?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Yeah very true. Once people pass their tests, they think thats it, they always see the faults in other peoples driving, very few consider their own.

However, the Pass Plus training scheme is fairly extensive and is broken down into 6 modules, to make it compulsory for everyone would be a bit of an overkill. The costs of setting it up to become compulsory for everyone may be prohibitive.

What would happen for example to the nervous middle aged lady who uses her car to go shopping and would never dream of ever driving on a motorway, should she be made to sit the motorway driving module? If exceptions were made like this how would you enforce it?

Not sure - maybe the normal driving test should not include motorway driving. If people want to the right to drive on motorways - they should then do extra training. Maybe the licence could be colour coded according to what degree of training they have received. There should be hugh penalties for people breaking these rules, including immediate suspension of their licence. Don't see how it would be any less enforcable than other forms of driving offences.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Not sure - maybe the normal driving test should not include motorway driving. If people want to the right to drive on motorways - they should then do extra training. Maybe the licence could be colour coded according to what degree of training they have received. There should be hugh penalties for people breaking these rules, including immediate suspension of their licence. Don't see how it would be any less enforcable than other forms of driving offences.

The normal test doesnt include motorway driving, however passing your test allows you to drive on all roads.

Its not so much about it being enforceable or not, its the cost of enforcing it. And at the moment its more about assessing, training and improving rather than a pass fail test.

If you immediately suspend someones licence on the hard shoulder how do they move away from the motorway, they arent allowed to walk down the hard shoulder. They cant remove their vehicle.


Also what happens if you live in the country but work in a town or city, you have had your licence for ten years, you pass town driving but fail or havent undertook rural driving or driving at night? Can you use your car to go to work if you know you will be driving later when its dark?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Yeah very true. Once people pass their tests, they think thats it, they always see the faults in other peoples driving, very few consider their own.

However, the Pass Plus training scheme is fairly extensive and is broken down into 6 modules, to make it compulsory for everyone would be a bit of an overkill. The costs of setting it up to become compulsory for everyone may be prohibitive.

What would happen for example to the nervous middle aged lady who uses her car to go shopping and would never dream of ever driving on a motorway, should she be made to sit the motorway driving module? If exceptions were made like this how would you enforce it?

You never know when it might come in useful! What if she fancied going shopping in another city for once or wanted to go and see someone? Or even for a day out?

I think its very impractical that new drivers are allowed on the motorway with no training, its letting someone without their provisional on the road straight away.