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Scarlett. · 10-03-2010, 04:04 PM

Well?

I sent off the form to register yesterday, hopefully I will be registered in time for the election

Novo · 10-03-2010, 04:07 PM

Crimson Dynamo · 10-03-2010, 04:11 PM

of course

only fools and tools do not vote

Stu · 10-03-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

of course

only fools and tools do not vote

It's so easy to tar everyone with the same brush, isn't it?

What if you don't like any of the choices presented to you? What if there is no clear 'best of the worst'? What if none of the electorates agree with your political views and don't look to be taking the world the way you wan't it to go? What if you think they are all ... in a word ... scumbags?

Don't be a dolt.

Niamh. · 10-03-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

It's so easy to tar everyone with the same brush, isn't it?

What if you don't like any of the choices presented to you? What if there is no clear 'best of the worst'? What if none of the electorates agree with your political views and don't look to be taking the world the way you wan't it to go? What if you think they are all ... in a word ... scumbags?

Don't be a dolt.

Yes but not being registered prevents you from voting in referendums as well that you may want a say in like the one we had on abortion etc.

Stu · 10-03-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Yes but not being registered prevents you from voting in referendums as well that you may want a say in like the one we had on abortion etc.

I wasn't saying anything about not being registered. I was responding to a comment that explicitly said only tools and fools don't vote.

I am registered, of course, and enjoy sticking it to the man on occasion.

Crimson Dynamo · 10-03-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

It's so easy to tar everyone with the same brush, isn't it?

What if you don't like any of the choices presented to you? What if there is no clear 'best of the worst'? What if none of the electorates agree with your political views and don't look to be taking the world the way you wan't it to go? What if you think they are all ... in a word ... scumbags?

Don't be a dolt.

Dont be naive. No one likes "any of the choices presented" because people who gravitate to politics do so for personal power reasons and if they dont when they go in they do when they are in but it is all we have so you have to make a choice. If you dont like what you see then get involved.

if you have ever been involved in Politics you soon realise that ideals are just grand but reality is much nastier and harder.

if all you do is vote you have done something. Most folks who dont vote for the reasons you give end up doing nothing apart from droning in someones ear in a pub.

Crimson Dynamo · 10-03-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

, and enjoy sticking it to the man on occasion.

so you say

Claymores · 10-03-2010, 04:36 PM

Can 14-16 year olds vote these days? Wow - Lady Sov is a shoe-in for next Prime Minister - Jonas as Chancellor of the Exchequer TIBB says

Stu · 10-03-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Dont be naive. No one likes "any of the choices presented" because people who gravitate to politics do so for personal power reasons and if they dont when they go in they do when they are in but it is all we have so you have to make a choice. If you dont like what you see then get involved.

if you have ever been involved in Politics you soon realise that ideals are just grand but reality is much nastier and harder.

if all you do is vote you have done something. Most folks who dont vote for the reasons you give end up doing nothing apart from droning in someones ear in a pub.

No. You don't have to make a choice. If I vote for someone I believe to be incompotent, whose views don't allign with mine, I have accomplished nothing - read - nothing by voting for them. Actually wait - I have. I have supported someone I don't wish to support. What a great way to devalue yourself. Your argument basically boils down to voting for the sake of it. For the pure act of it alone. If it accomplishes nothing, I would rather sit at home and rub one out.

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so you say

Do go on.

Crimson Dynamo · 10-03-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

No. You don't have to make a choice. If I vote for someone I believe to be incompotent, whose views don't allign with mine, I have accomplished nothing - read - nothing by voting for them. Actually wait - I have. I have supported someone I don't wish to support. What a great way to devalue yourself. Your argument basically boils down to voting for the sake of it. For the pure act of it alone. If it accomplishes nothing, I would rather sit at home and rub one out.

Do go on.

There is such choice nowadays you cant say that there is no one to vote for?

Stu · 10-03-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There is such choice nowadays you cant say that there is no one to vote for?

Actually I can. That's the point. But obviously I am only speaking for Irish politics here. But still the point stands.

\PJ/ · 10-03-2010, 04:42 PM

Im not voting so,no.

arista · 10-03-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy

Well?

I sent off the form to register yesterday, hopefully I will be registered in time for the election

Yes
but sadly
more Young Folks are not bothering to vote.

We should be like Down Under
you have to vote by law.

And you can tick a No Vote
for no one.
So even if you do not like any leader
you can still vote No for no one

Vicky. · 10-03-2010, 04:42 PM

Im registered, dont know if I'll bother voting though...seems pointless...will be between labour and tories...and I hate them both.

Crimson Dynamo · 10-03-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Im registered, dont know if I'll bother voting though...seems pointless...will be between labour and tories...and I hate them both.

what about your local MPs?

Crimson Dynamo · 10-03-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Actually I can. That's the point. But obviously I am only speaking for Irish politics here. But still the point stands.

It is too easy to look at politicians and parties and think "OOh I hate what they stand for" unless you have a better alternative and are willing to do something about it

finding faults is the easiest game in town

arista · 10-03-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Im registered, dont know if I'll bother voting though...seems pointless...will be between labour and tories...and I hate them both.

No it could also
be Conservative-Lib Dem joined power
keeping out New Labour who after 13 years have failed.

Stu · 10-03-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It is too easy to look at politicians and parties and think "OOh I hate what they stand for" unless you have a better alternative and are willing to do something about it

finding faults is the easiest game in town

So I am not entitled to hold my view that all the options suck unless I am willing to drop my life right now and devote it to creating an alternate?

Sorry, but I don't buy that. Learn to recognise when people disagree with you and move on, not attempt to devalue them at every turn.

All the options sucked last time, so I didn't vote last time. End of story.

arista · 10-03-2010, 04:49 PM

David Cameron on ITV1 Live now
has done a great Interview.
Passion for England.

Not for the One Eyed Scottish Un Elected Brown
PM Nutter who said 'Global' 5 times in a row.
this morning live.

pinkmichk · 10-03-2010, 04:59 PM

i'm registered but i dont vote cos to me they are allnas bad as each other and i'm not going to waste my time voting cos frankly none of them deserve to be in power

Princess · 10-03-2010, 05:26 PM

I'm registered because I've never moved house in my life so I didn't have to bother to do it myself. I don't vote though,I don't have opinions on stuff like that.