[InOne]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Yeh but if you think for one second mental health professionals are too trusting or somehow being fooled your very much mistaken, quite the opposite, most are abnormaly cynical lol

Yes and no, all depends on the patients and their history really.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by InOne

Yes and no, all depends on the patients and their history really.

look most people who have worked in mental health for a number of years know who is or isnt going to be a danger to themselves or others but getting the proof that that is the case is a different matter, thats the way the system works and if someone is telling you one thing and thinking another then theres nothing anyone can do to help them, thats the system

[InOne]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

look most people who have worked in mental health for a number of years know who is or isnt going to be a danger to themselves or others but getting the proof that that is the case is a different matter, thats the way the system works and if someone is telling you one thing and thinking another then theres nothing anyone can do to help them, thats the system

Yes indeed, everyone makes mistakes, and some are better at hiding that they're ill than others.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by InOne

Yes indeed, everyone makes mistakes, and some are better at hiding that they're ill than others.

I can think of a few reasons why people would hide their distress, (apart from being so troubled they can only see one way out), maybe because of the stigma and maybe they misunderstand what mental illness is, its not the way we used to view it... as something you "got" and cant recover from or something that makes you different from others, apart from obvious things like hearing voices the experiences people with mental health problems have dont differ from experiences everyone else has from time to time, theyre just exagerrated and more extreme. I like to think of Sane-Insane as being on a line and all of us are on that line somewhere and most of us a times in our life probably fall in to what is considered abnormal but wouldnt even consider that we have mental health problems. Anyway point is anyone in mental distress can recover if they want to and are honest about how theyre feeling, if not theyre really only hurting themselves... and their loved ones

[InOne]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

I can think of a few reasons why people would hide their distress, maybe because of the stigma and maybe they misunderstand what mental illness is, its not the way we used to view it... as something you "got" and cant recover from or something that makes you different from others, apart from obvious things like hearing voices the experiences people with mental health problems have dont differ from experiences everyone else has from time to time, theyre just exagerrated and more extreme. I like to think of Sane-Insane as being on a line and all of us are on that line somewhere and most of us a times in our life probably fall in to what is considered abnormal but wouldnt even consider that we have mental health problems. Anyway point is anyone in mental distress can recover if they want to and are honest about how theyre feeling, if not theyre really only hurting themselves... and their loved ones

Yeah I know what you mean. It's not always easy to talk about and the stigma and some of the names of the labels aren't too plesant either. That is why i'm half and half with labels really. I mean a Personality Disorder would not be a nice label to have. But with like Bipolar and Scitztophrinia, you can use those labels to get the treatment that is right for you. And say like with ADHD, you get more help at Uni and that. It all depends on the person I guess, cos some people wear their labels with a badge of honour which is not good.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by InOne

Yeah I know what you mean. It's not always easy to talk about and the stigma and some of the names of the labels aren't too plesant either. That is why i'm half and half with labels really. I mean a Personality Disorder would not be a nice label to have. But with like Bipolar and Scitztophrinia, you can use those labels to get the treatment that is right for you. And say like with ADHD, you get more help at Uni and that. It all depends on the person I guess, cos some people wear their labels with a badge of honour which is not good.

Well people like to identify with something and sometimes that might be all they have sad as it is. I hate labels as you might have noticed, someone might be prone to certain symptoms but thats it for me, no two people are alike and very often people in distress have symptoms from all of the labels I dont see how a psychiatrist who sees you for 5 minutes a week can put anyone in a particular box, its ridiculous, a persons diagnosis could change from day to day depending on their mood and what theyre feeling and that In my experience is the truth of it. Treat symptoms not a diagnosis, thats the way its heading and so it should

[InOne]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Well people like to identify with something and sometimes that might be all they have sad as it is. I hate labels as you might have noticed, someone might be prone to certain symptoms but thats it for me, no two people are alike and very often people in distress have symptoms from all of the labels I dont see how a psychiatrist who sees you for 5 minutes a week can put anyone in a particular box, its ridiculous, a persons diagnosis could change from day to day depending on their mood and what theyre feeling and that In my experience is the truth of it. Treat symptoms not a diagnosis, thats the way its heading and so it should

Indeed, that is a good way for most things but some do need labels, like ADHD. Cos it would be awful to be on meds for years and them not being the rights ones. I guess with meds at the start it's alot of trial and error anyway. I have considered getting myself referred to Mausley lol get me sorted once and for all