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Crimson Dynamo · 22-03-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

If you have just cause to refuse admission, which she obviously didn't. She discriminated.... nothing more.

she did not like the look of them, it is up to her. Just the same if they were a couple of hoodies, gypsies, Emos or Vampires. if it was my Mum I would want her to have the final call.

setanta · 22-03-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she did not like the look of them, it is up to her. Just the same if they were a couple of hoodies, gypsies, Emos or Vampires. if it was my Mum I would want her to have the final call.

You really believe that's good reason to refuse them? She didn't like them because they were gay, very simple.

Niamh. · 22-03-2010, 02:52 PM

What is your motivation for defending her anyway LT, do you not like gay people either?

Crimson Dynamo · 22-03-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

What is your motivation for defending her anyway LT, do you not like gay people either?

I dont think I am defending her as such just not jumping on the usual hysterical gay bandwagon. For my British upbringing I just see 2 t wats who should have just gone elsewhere than stayed at that old bats gaff.

Niamh. · 22-03-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I dont think I am defending her as such just not jumping on the usual hysterical gay bandwagon. For my British upbringing I just see 2 t wats who should have just gone elsewhere than stayed at that old bats gaff.

Well, can you not see why they would be annoyed though? I would be if it were me

Stu · 22-03-2010, 03:19 PM

So where does the buck stop, LT? Should Christians have the right, based on religious belief, to refuse people all sorts of services? Should a Christian, if he saw fit, refuse me entry to a gig because I was a non believer? Is it okay for a Christian to refuse to let an unmarried couple with a kid into a theme park?

Also, plenty of scientists believe genetics have an important role to play in a persons sexuality also. You say there is no proof beyond reasonable doubt that people are gay as a right of birth, but the vice versa also applies. It's funny how you demand scientific proof for certain things, but it doesn't matter for others

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Crimson Dynamo · 22-03-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

So where does the buck stop, LT? Should Christians have the right, based on religious belief, to refuse people all sorts of services? Should a Christian, if he saw fit, refuse me entry to a gig because I was a non believer? Is it okay for a Christian to refuse to let an unmarried couple with a kid into a theme park?

Also, plenty of scientists believe genetics have an important role to play in a persons sexuality also. You say there is no proof beyond reasonable doubt that people are gay as a right of birth, but the vice versa also applies. It's funny how you demand scientific proof for certain things, but it doesn't matter for others

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The Mail called her a Christian but she was only quoted as saying "against her convictions" - ie I think she just thought I dont want 2 old men bumming each other on my laundry bill.

re the science thing. I am not asking for proof just stating what we currently know. As stated in the other thread using Science to disprove religion is not valid.

Stu · 22-03-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The Mail called her a Christian but she was only quoted as saying "against her convictions" - ie I think she just thought I dont want 2 old men bumming each other on my laundry bill.

re the science thing. I am not asking for proof just stating what we currently know. As stated in the other thread using Science to disprove religion is not valid.

Either way, it's discrimination and it's illegal.

Besides, wasn't it called The Christian Inn or something

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Personally I believe the 'science cannot disprove religion' argument is complete farce but that's another argument for another thread. Like the one you set up that I posted in ...

arista · 22-03-2010, 03:28 PM

"The Mail called her a Christian "

The two Men were also Live on SkyNews
and Radio Five Live.

They Woman running that B&B is a outright Church Freak
Utter Fact

Crimson Dynamo · 22-03-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Either way, it's discrimination and it's illegal.

Besides, wasn't it called The Christian Inn or something

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I am not sure it is illegal, lots of gay men bum each other and stay out of jail.

Crimson Dynamo · 22-03-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

"The Mail called her a Christian "

The two Men were also Live on SkyNews
and Radio Five Live.

They Woman running that B&B is a outright Church Freak
Utter Fact

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Shasown · 22-03-2010, 03:59 PM

LT I think the word you were looking for reference the religion thing is bigotry, you can be a bigot without being illegal, and judging by reports not only in the mail but elsewhere it definately looks as if she was discriminatory on the grounds of their sexuality, which unfortunately for her is illegal.

She owns and runs a small business, it is wise when doing so not only to be aware of the law and how it applies to her business but also to have a standard excuse prepared for when you refuse customers who turn up and offend your sensibilities. e.g. she could have said, without looking outraged, "I am really sorry but it appears as if you have been double booked, we only realised when the other people turned up and booked in, could I arrange alternate accomodation in another guest house etc, at no extra charge" etc.

Whilst it isnt an offence to be stupid, it is an offence to be discriminatory and ignorant enough to make statements to others including the police and the press stating that yes you do discriminate against same sex couples sharing the same bed.

Hoisted on her own petard methinks.

Niamh. · 22-03-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

LT I think the word you were looking for reference the religion thing is bigotry, you can be a bigot without being illegal, and judging by reports not only in the mail but elsewhere it definately looks as if she was discriminatory on the grounds of their sexuality, which unfortunately for her is illegal.

She owns and runs a small business, it is wise when doing so to have a standard excuse prepared for when you refuse customers who turn up and offend your sensibilities. EG she could have said, without looking outraged, I am really sorry but it appears as if you have been double booked, we only realised when the other people turned up and booked in, could I arrange alternate accomodation in another guest house etc, at no extra charge etc.

Whilst it isnt an offence to be stupid, it is an offence to be discriminatory and ignorant enough to make statements to others including the police and the press stating that yes you do discriminate against same sex couples sharing the same bed.

haha, great post!

Crimson Dynamo · 22-03-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

LT I think the word you were looking for reference the religion thing is bigotry, you can be a bigot without being illegal, and judging by reports not only in the mail but elsewhere it definately looks as if she was discriminatory on the grounds of their sexuality, which unfortunately for her is illegal.

She owns and runs a small business, it is wise when doing so to have a standard excuse prepared for when you refuse customers who turn up and offend your sensibilities. EG she could have said, without looking outraged, I am really sorry but it appears as if you have been double booked, we only realised when the other people turned up and booked in, could I arrange alternate accomodation in another guest house etc, at no extra charge etc.

Whilst it isnt an offence to be stupid, it is an offence to be discriminatory and ignorant enough to make statements to others including the police and the press stating that yes you do discriminate against same sex couples sharing the same bed.

A Bigot, that was the fella I was after.

I very much doubt that she will be prosecuted by anyone. She was silly not to use a better excuse I grant you. Death in the family would have been my choice, that or Vampire convention.

LemonJam · 22-03-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

Yes Niamh. I bought my gay tendencies at Matalan.

roflmfao

GhettoSuperstar · 22-03-2010, 05:15 PM

In my conclusion... LT is sooooooooooooooooo GAY.

arista · 22-03-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GhettoSuperstar

In my conclusion... LT is sooooooooooooooooo GAY.

For Sure.

arista · 22-03-2010, 05:37 PM

That B & B Church Freaks Wife and Husband were just on TV on BBC London News
they have broken UK Laws.
And will be in Court at some point , over this Anti Gay attack.

xDramatick · 22-03-2010, 06:09 PM

Ugh, that is terrible!
I'd have put up more of an argument though, there's no way I'd let anyone get away with that sorta discrimination.

Idiots.

arista · 22-03-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Darenn

Ugh, that is terrible!
I'd have put up more of an argument though, there's no way I'd let anyone get away with that sorta discrimination.

Idiots.

Well they will be at a Civil Court
soon.

New Labour that Run the UK
could not care lees,
which is so Typical of them.

M X · 22-03-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There is no conclusive biological evidence to suggest that is is a born with situation. The "science" here is poor.

I can't believe you've just said that. Being gay isn't a bad thing, but nobody would choose to be gay. Do you realise how much easier it would be just to be straight. The fact you think it's a choice disgusts me.

cupid stunt · 24-03-2010, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...share-bed.html

You may be Gay but you ain't Free to go any place
in New Labours UK
Utter Fact.

listen here pal, THIS IS NOT SOME HOTEL THERE ON ABOUT, IT IS A B&B WHICH MEANS IT IS THAT POOR COUPLES HOME, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT CALLING THEM 'CHURCH FREAKS' JUST BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT THAT SICK SORT OF CARRY ON IN THERE HOUSE
THEY SHOULD HAVE SEPERATE B&BS FOR GAYS
NOT EVERYONE IS POLITICALY CORRECT IN 2010 YOU KNOW

cupid stunt · 24-03-2010, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

I can't believe you've just said that. Being gay isn't a bad thing, but nobody would choose to be gay. Do you realise how much easier it would be just to be straight. The fact you think it's a choice disgusts me.

rather than it being a choice, i reckon it is a mental illness me

cupid stunt · 24-03-2010, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

Whilst I agree the owner of the property is a total bigoted moron - there isn't really a 'right' to stay at someone's house. Though it is discrimination I guess.

And arista, 'New Labour's UK' is a hell of a lot more tolerant and equal than it was prior to it. I'd much rather have Brown, whose party has legislated civil partnerships, tackled homophobia and fought for other gay rights (such as adoption and the silly blood donation thing) - than Cameron, who has time and time again voted against gay adoption.

haha DISCRIMINATION IT SAYS! LISTEN MATE YOUR LUCKY YOU DONT LIVE IN SOMALIA WHERE THEY STONE GAYS TO DEATH, IF YOUR NOT HAPPY OVER HERE YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO!