[Niamh.]

Fair enough in Taxis and that but don't tell me I can't smoke in my own privatly owned car thank you very much!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Fair enough in Taxis and that but don't tell me I can't smoke in my own privatly owned car thank you very much!

You cant

and you can let two ugly gay blokes sleep there either


so thats you told

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You cant

and you can let two ugly gay blokes sleep there either


so thats you told

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Fair enough in Taxis and that but don't tell me I can't smoke in my own privatly owned car thank you very much!

I agree with this, I don't smoke but it's ridiculous to try to stop people smoking in their own cars.

[bananarama]

I agree a ban in the car where passengers are involved but otherwise if a solitary person wants to smoke them selves to death......That's their stupid choice.......However in practice enforcing a ban would be as good as impossible........So whats the point!!!!!!!!!!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bananarama

I agree a ban in the car where passengers are involved but otherwise if a solitary person wants to smoke them selves to death......That's their stupid choice.......However in practice enforcing a ban would be as good as impossible........So whats the point!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, see I don't get why people want to force other people to not smoke in their own cars? What difference does it make to anyone else If I smoke in my car? Yes, I know it's bad for me but why is that anyones elses business?

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Yeah, see I don't get why people want to force other people to not smoke in their own cars? What difference does it make to anyone else If I smoke in my car? Yes, I know it's bad for me but why is that anyones elses business?

Its called nanny state. Those that do not value their health the state sees fit to try and force them to value their health..........Unenforcable of course.......There is a wider debate however.......those damaging their health do put a strain on the health service costs in the long run so there is method in the madness of nanny state mentality........

Also smokers have no regard for their partners and children if the shoud become ill or die as a result of an avoidable bad rather selfish habit.......

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Its called nanny state. Those that do not value their health the state sees fit to try and force them to value their health..........Unenforcable of course.......There is a wider debate however.......those damaging their health do put a strain on the health service costs in the long run so there is method in the madness of nanny state mentality........

Also smokers have no regard for their partners and children if the shoud become ill or die as a result of an avoidable bad rather selfish habit.......

Well, the costing the state bit I disagree with, I think I more than pay my share on the huge taxes put on cigarettes!

And yes, I see where you're coming from with the last comment but it is not done out of selfishness or disregard for my children or husband thank you very much, I was already addicted before I had either.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Well, the costing the state bit I disagree with, I think I more than pay my share on the huge taxes put on cigarettes!

And yes, I see where you're coming from with the last comment but it is not done out of selfishness or disregard for my children or husband thank you very much, I was already addicted before I had either.

The taxes on cigarettes would go no where to cover the cost of treating cancer and heart disease so that is I am afraid a smoker in denial of the habit and its consequences.........Smoking is an addiction that can be broken if not for yourself you should not be selfish about the consequences to your wife and children if they have to face the possibility of watching a slow lingering death due to smoking..........Their mental well being is being ignored is it not...!!!!!!

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Its called nanny state. Those that do not value their health the state sees fit to try and force them to value their health..........Unenforcable of course.......There is a wider debate however.......those damaging their health do put a strain on the health service costs in the long run so there is method in the madness of nanny state mentality........

Also smokers have no regard for their partners and children if the shoud become ill or die as a result of an avoidable bad rather selfish habit.......

Of course the fact that lots smokers get lung cancer and die relatively quickly due to the fast acting nature of lung cancer, without receiving a lot of expensive treatment, from the NHS which has in turn received lots of money via the tax on tobacco from them. Also insurance premiums etc are more expensive for smokers, there is also the element of tax on that. Smokers and smoking takes out a lot less than it puts into the state.

Its not so much smokers, its doctors calling for the ban, smoking is an easy target, after all they would just be ignored if they called for more effective catalytic converters on all vehicles or even more effective emission control on aircraft, two factors that have been proven to have a greater direct effect on childhood asthma. - Jobs for the boys.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Also smokers have no regard for their partners and children if the shoud become ill or die as a result of an avoidable bad rather selfish habit.......

You bastard, my mum cares about me and all my family, so get that stupid idea outta your head:/

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by Twilight

You bastard, my mum cares about me and all my family, so get that stupid idea outta your head:/

Ok get angry..Thats what happens when a nerve has been touched.......Anger based on your guilt for not caring enough to stop the ridoiculous habit of walking about like a bloody chimny pot......

[30stone]

Originally Posted by Twilight

You bastard, my mum cares about me and all my family, so get that stupid idea outta your head:/

Don't insult other members.

To an extent i agree with bananarama to.

[Ramsay]

yeah well its bad if you light up in a bus or taxi
but in your OWN car ..smoke all ya like

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Fair enough in Taxis and that but don't tell me I can't smoke in my own privatly owned car thank you very much!

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[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Fair enough in Taxis and that but don't tell me I can't smoke in my own privatly owned car thank you very much!

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