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Old 09-05-2010, 03:18 PM #1
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"Let's hope the LibDems really grind their noses into the ground though. "


Yes Dezzy nothing wrong with that at all.

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David Cameron.
We'll probably get the chance to boot him out soon enough when the coalition breaks down though.
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We'll probably get the chance to boot him out soon enough when the coalition breaks down though.

Dream On.
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Let's face it if Labour gets someone half decent to replace Gordon Brown then Cameron's *****ed, he's only there because he is the only realistic option.
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Let's face it if Labour gets someone half decent to replace Gordon Brown then Cameron's *****ed, he's only there because he is the only realistic option.
It doesn't alter the fact that Labour LOST the election. If the best that Labour have got is Milliband or Harman, then I don't think the Tories will be quaking in their boots!
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It doesn't alter the fact that Labour LOST the election. If the best that Labour have got is Milliband or Harman, then I don't think the Tories will be quaking in their boots!
I dunno, the public had no faith in Brown rather then Labour and I think Conservatives would struggle to mantain their position if someone like Milliband takes over who from what I gather is meant to be quite a popular choice from within the party. The thing is even with a lack of faith in Labour there was still only a few seats in it, the Conservatives only got as many as they did because they were the alternate choice to Brown.

Unless the Tories go against character and manage to keep the lower classes satisfied then they won't remain at 10 for long I think.
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I dunno, the public had no faith in Brown rather then Labour and I think Conservatives would struggle to mantain their position if someone like Milliband takes over who from what I gather is meant to be quite a popular choice from within the party. The thing is even with a lack of faith in Labour there was still only a few seats in it, the Conservatives only got as many as they did because they were the alternate choice to Brown.

Unless the Tories go against character and manage to keep the lower classes satisfied then they won't remain at 10 for long I think.
No, the Lib/Dems were also a choice but they, too, didn't do well since the GBP clearly voted for a party that was NOT just a watered down version of New Labour. As for the Oxbridge graduate Milliband, he might well be a popular choice WITHIN the party, cos let's face it they haven't many to choose from have they, but that doesn't necessarily translate into votes with the GBP.

As for keeping the "lower classes" satisfied, weren't Labour supposed to be doing that and look where it got them on polling day? These days everybody is aspirational and certainly don't view themselves as the "lower" classes. I might be working class, but I am NOT lower class, and I completely espouse Tory ideology of self reliance, independence and aspiration, not the New Labour ideology of reliance on the state, and abdication of responsibility for oneself to others.
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No, the Lib/Dems were also a choice but they, too, didn't do well since the GBP clearly voted for a party that was NOT just a watered down version of New Labour. As for the Oxbridge graduate Milliband, he might well be a popular choice WITHIN the party, cos let's face it they haven't many to choose from have they, but that doesn't necessarily translate into votes with the GBP.
I can guarantee you that if Brown wasn't in charge Labour would have probably won outright. The UK doesn't like change, why do you think we had Thatcher and Blair for so long? The Conservatives won purely on them being the only realistic alternative to Brown and I'd bet money that if the next Labour leader is decent then they'll be back in power by the next election.

Even with the Brown effect in full flow the Tories couldn't get an outright victory so that's more telling then anything I can say really.
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