[elliebrew]

JJ is guilty of Far worse than rachel. He's doing everything he's accusing her of doing and more. People say rachel bitches and calls housemates for everything behind their back....what is JJ doing. He's single handedly bitched more about rachel than anyone. Rachael says she doesn't like someone and she's the worst bitch in the world. JJ bitches none stop about rachel for two days behind her back, calling her all the names under the sun. Tries to turn other housemates (ben) against her and is genuinly singling her out an he's a hero for owning her.

It's infuriating!!!!

[Twilight]

Nahh, get Rachael out.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Twilight

Nahh, get Rachael out.

You alwys do this twilight. You never give reasons or valid arguements. You only like JJ cos he's fit and you want eye candy. You rachel cos she's pretty.

I wish women BB voters would stop thinking from between their legs and start seeing people as people

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

You alwys do this twilight. You never give reasons or valid arguements. You only like JJ cos he's fit and you want eye candy. You rachel cos she's pretty.

I wish women BB voters would stop thinking from between their legs and start seeing people as people

That is highly insulting and a very lazy argument on your point to be quite honest.

We must all like JJ because of what he looks like, you take Rachaels side that's fine that's your choice but please do me, Emily and everyone else the courtesy of assuming we have more of a brain than that!

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

You alwys do this twilight. You never give reasons or valid arguements. You only like JJ cos he's fit and you want eye candy. You rachel cos she's pretty.

I wish women BB voters would stop thinking from between their legs and start seeing people as people

JJ is just saying it like it is, its got nothing to do with how he looks, although he looks GREAT!

[skkc16]

thats so true it seems every word that comes out of his mouth at the moment is him bad mouthing rachael and i think its uncalled for



RACHAEL TO STAY.....SHABBY/SUNSHINE TO LEAVE

[Twilight]

Oh well then, some men also need to stop thinking with their dicks, and actually i don't think JJ is at all hot. And Rachael is really pretty, but shes a annoying bitch as well, thats why i dislike her.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Twilight

Nahh, get Rachael out.

Nope, bimbo john will be out.

[chauncey]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

JJ is guilty of Far worse than rachel. He's doing everything he's accusing her of doing and more. People say rachel bitches and calls housemates for everything behind their back....what is JJ doing. He's single handedly bitched more about rachel than anyone. Rachael says she doesn't like someone and she's the worst bitch in the world. JJ bitches none stop about rachel for two days behind her back, calling her all the names under the sun. Tries to turn other housemates (ben) against her and is genuinly singling her out an he's a hero for owning her.

It's infuriating!!!!

Agreed.The guys who like him think he's a legend for being 'man' enough to repeatedly attack a girl who will not stand up for herself and just bursts into tears and walks away: ooh what a big lad he is!

Then there are the insecure silly women,who like him because they feel threatened by girls like Rach in real life and have fallen for his 'I like the average girl' BS game he's pulling.

[_Seth]

JJ was right to say to Ben why bother.

The thing is, everyone, is that JJ says these things TO RACHAELS FACE AND TO OTHER PEOPLE. If he says it to her face, it's ok if he talks about it to other people.

[skkc16]

Originally Posted by Twilight

Oh well then, some men also need to stop thinking with their dicks, and actually i don't think JJ is at all hot. And Rachael is really pretty, but shes a annoying bitch as well, thats why i dislike her.

how is she annoying what has she actually done thats annoying

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chauncey

Agreed.The guys who like him think he's a legend for being 'man' enough to repeatedly attack a girl who will not stand up for herself and just bursts into tears and walks away: ooh what a big lad he is!

Then there are the insecure silly women,who like him because they feel threatened by girls like Rach in real life and have fallen for his 'I like the average girl' BS game he's pulling.

You could try to respect other people motivations for liking him (even if you don't agree) instead of assuming we're all brainless bimbos who can't see past a pretty face.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

That is highly insulting and a very lazy argument on your point to be quite honest.

We must all like JJ because of what he looks like, you take Rachaels side that's fine that's your choice but please do me, Emily and everyone else the courtesy of assuming we have more of a brain than that!

OK then well give me a valid arguement instead if just saying 'no thanks' or 'get them out' etc.

As far as I can see you havnt given ANY valid reason to back JJ in his treatment of Rachael.
Rachael has literally done nothing at all to deserve it, bar make a few faces maybe but so what? He spoke to her and she apologised and said she didn't know she was doing it in a bad way what else is she to do? She wanted to be his friend and he wants to be an immature, pathetic idiot.

It says more about the people who post in here in support of JJ than Rachael herself.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

You alwys do this twilight. You never give reasons or valid arguements. You only like JJ cos he's fit and you want eye candy. You rachel cos she's pretty.

For some reason...I dont think JJ would be quite twilights type

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

That is highly insulting and a very lazy argument on your point to be quite honest.

We must all like JJ because of what he looks like, you take Rachaels side that's fine that's your choice but please do me, Emily and everyone else the courtesy of assuming we have more of a brain than that!

Yup...exactly. Same argument every year.

Dont you know, we are supposed to automatically hate any good looking guy...or else we want to **** them. We are also meant to automatically like any good looking girl...or else we are jealous. No matter what their personalities or anything.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted by skkc16

how is she annoying what has she actually done thats annoying

Crying at everything and the bit when she was in the DR and said, "No one fancies me and its weird" Shes big headed, and i hate that.

[yousoboo!]

JJ just speaks the truth. he hasn't been nasty to anyone.

[chauncey]

Originally Posted by Phlip

JJ was right to say to Ben why bother.

The thing is, everyone, is that JJ says these things TO RACHAELS FACE AND TO OTHER PEOPLE. If he says it to her face, it's ok if he talks about it to other people.

That was the defence of Charley.The value of honesty diminishes if it's used to repeatedly verbally attack someone.the HM's have got it,Rach has got it,there's no need for him to go on and on.

Just now in the garden he was desperate to turn the conversation to Rachael but Josie(annoyed at his obsession by now)just spoke over him and moved the convo on.Even his 'friends' are sick of his behavior,what does that tell you?

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by chauncey

That was the defence of Charley.The value of honesty diminishes if it's used to repeatedly verbally attack someone.the HM's have got it,Rach has got it,there's no need for him to go on and on.

Just now in the garden he was desperate to turn the conversation to Rachael but Josie(annoyed at his obsession by now)just spoke over him and moved the convo on.Even his 'friends' are sick of his behavior,what does that tell you?

He should give it a rest, I agree. I'm not ready to give up on him yet, though.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Twilight

Crying at everything and the bit when she was in the DR and said, "No one fancies me and its weird" Shes big headed, and i hate that.

She cried because she was put up for eviction. And she cried after an arguement it's perfectly viable reason.

JJ says it like it is but rachaels a bitch?!? Get a grip. He hasn't said half as many bad things as JJ but it's ok Its just JJ's opinion which he's entitled to! But Rachel isn't allowed an opinion right!!

How dare she hve an opinion on someone she's such a bitch!!!

And it's the same arguement every year vicky because it happens every year!!

BBuk is the most sexist gameshow on TV

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

OK then well give me a valid arguement instead if just saying 'no thanks' or 'get them out' etc.

As far as I can see you havnt given ANY valid reason to back JJ in his treatment of Rachael.
Rachael has literally done nothing at all to deserve it, bar make a few faces maybe but so what? He spoke to her and she apologised and said she didn't know she was doing it in a bad way what else is she to do? She wanted to be his friend and he wants to be an immature, pathetic idiot.

It says more about the people who post in here in support of JJ than Rachael herself.

I personally like JJ because I think that everything he's said to Rachael was true and what I thought about her myself. I don't like the way she looks down her nose at people and to me she does come across as thinking she's better than other people less good looking than herself. I believe If Sunshine had said the same thing to her, she wouldn't have been as hurt or offended because she would not consider her a cool/goodlooking person like JJ and I believe that is the only reason why his opinion seems to matter to her.

I also believe that his analysis of Shabby was spot on. I do think that he could have said what he did to Rachael in a less aggressive way but then again maybe she needs someone to speak to her like that for it to sink in.

This is my opinion and you may not agree but that doesn't make it any less valid than yours

[chauncey]

I'm glad Rach is still laughing and smiling today,despite JJ's attempts to upset,isolate,control and crush the confidence out of her.Keep it up Rach,he wanted her moping in the bedroom so her highlights are crap tomorrow,haha shame.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

She cried because she was put up for eviction. And she cried after an arguement it's perfectly viable reason.

JJ says it like it is but rachaels a bitch?!? Get a grip. He hasn't said half as many bad things as JJ but it's ok Its just JJ's opinion which he's entitled to! But Rachel isn't allowed an opinion right!!

How dare she hve an opinion on someone she's such a bitch!!!

And it's the same arguement every year vicky because it happens every year!!

BBuk is the most sexist gameshow on TV

I'm not sexist, don't ever call me that. I don't fancy him, at all, and if you looks at my faves, you'll see that i actually like some of the really pretty girls.

[robb]

JJ isn't half as clever as he thinks he is......

[Lee.]

I think JJ seems to be a good judge of character and thankfully can see past Rachel's looks and see her for the vain, egotistical b!tch that she is. He does seem very frank, a trait that a lot of Aussie's seem to be able to pull off without coming over as offensive. I'm really liking him so far and I'm sorry, but I think I (like a lot of people) had Rachael summed up from day 1 and people in general do not like girls that act like her.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I personally like JJ because I think that everything he's said to Rachael was true and what I thought about her myself. I don't like the way she looks down her nose at people and to me she does come across as thinking she's better than other people less good looking than herself. I believe If Sunshine had said the same thing to her, she wouldn't have been as hurt or offended because she would not consider her a cool/goodlooking person like JJ and I believe that is the only reason why his opinion seems to matter to her.
I also believe that his analysis of Shabby was spot on. I do think that he could have said what he did to Rachael in a less aggressive way but then again maybe she needs someone to speak to her like that for it to sink in.

This is my opinion and you may not agree but that doesn't make it any less valid than yours

I agree with that 100%.. She won't be able to get that into her shallow head at all, how someone who looks as cool as JJ doesn't fall at her feet and beg to be the new beautiful BB "couple"