[Alpertinator]

Yeah that was terrible. It's not just that England were ruined because of awful work by the officials. It's very much about the principle. The world cup is the biggest football tournament in the world and that should not happen at the world cup. Absolutely dreadful, terrible, the linesman was not in line with the goal either, what did he find a shiny coin on the ground by the side of the pitch or somethin'? Honestly it's like somethin' distracted him (Peter Griffin-esque) and he just screwed up his job. He ought be dissallowed to be a linesman in major games anymore to be honest, that should just no be allowed to happen and it's a complete disgrace.

But even so I'm with Pixee, England (like two other supposedly titanic sides Italy and France) played terrible in the world cup. England are top 10 ranked, but they shouldn't be. It's a squad made up of fantastic club players but they don't bond like other international sides do (Brasilia). England are very over-rated and they played terrible in this tournament.

[pixee]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

Yeah that was terrible. It's not just that England were ruined because of awful work by the officials. It's very much about the principle. The world cup is the biggest football tournament in the world and that should not happen at the world cup. Absolutely dreadful, terrible, the linesman was not in line with the goal either, what did he find a shiny coin on the ground by the side of the pitch or somethin'? Honestly it's like somethin' distracted him (Peter Griffin-esque) and he just screwed up his job. He ought be dissallowed to be a linesman in major games anymore to be honest, that should just no be allowed to happen and it's a complete disgrace.

But even so I'm with Pixee, England (like two other supposedly titanic sides Italy and France) played terrible in the world cup. England are top 10 ranked, but they shouldn't be. It's a squad made up of fantastic club players but they don't bond like other international sides do (Brasilia). England are very over-rated and they played terrible in this tournament.

2nd part agreed. Not every league has sky advertising money and hype behind it, hence 100 grand a week no shows who can't pass and move as well has algerian players.

And Italy and France had same problem as us, instead of clearing out elderly players and moving on, rebuilding they stick with them and they think they're un dropable.

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by pixee

2nd part agreed. Not every league has sky advertising money and hype behind it, hence 100 grand a week no shows who can't pass and move as well has algerian players.

And Italy and France had same problem as us, instead of clearing out elderly players and moving on, rebuilding they stick with them and they think they're un dropable.

Neither the French nor the Italian leagues are particuly rich financially, twas only pre-last world cup Juventus went into financial meltdown.

[pixee]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

Neither the French nor the Italian leagues are particuly rich financially, twas only pre-last world cup Juventus went into financial meltdown.

I didn't say they were... i said they had same problems as us with a team that needed rebuilding.

My point about financial clout of premier league was in reference to the assumpetion that our players/team is better than everyone elses.

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by pixee

I didn't say they were... i said they had same problems as us with a team that needed rebuilding.

My point about financial clout of premier league was in reference to the assumpetion that our players/team is better than everyone elses.

Who made the assumption that our players are better than everyone else?

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

But even so I'm with Pixee, England (like two other supposedly titanic sides Italy and France) played terrible in the world cup. England are top 10 ranked, but they shouldn't be. It's a squad made up of fantastic club players but they don't bond like other international sides do (Brasilia). England are very over-rated and they played terrible in this tournament.

Its Fabio's fault, he played Gerrard on the left wing, its an absolute nonsense to do that.
He also didn't give the squad a good enough rest pre-tournament like the other countries had.
He also played heskey above Defoe originally and Crouch, absolute nonsense.
His formation tactics were shocking.

What we do need however, is more English people playing in the premiership.

[bbfan1991]

I'm gutted C4 stopped their footie shows a while back.