[vesavius]

Originally Posted by XxXILuv2PlayXxX

I wish Ife would shut up about Sunshine saying that she is a drama queen & attention seeker - Ife you are getting to that stage soon yourself if you are not careful!!!!

I'm not a fan of Ife's tbh but she has got SS perfectly.

Tonight has doubly proven that.

[starry]

Originally Posted by Nate

Jeez them two are as bad as each other (her n jj)

Not really he dragged her across to the pool and threw her in even though she said stop. Hopefully this at least turns some people against JJ anyway, I really hope it hurts his chances in this series of doing that well.

[starry]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I'm not a fan of Ife's tbh but she has got SS perfectly.

Tonight has doubly proven that.

I don't think so, it's shown Ife to be as big a bitch as Keeva. This matter is none of her business and she is using it as a means of bitching about Sunshine again, along with some of the other turds in there.

[Dannyboii]

Originally Posted by vesavius

You heard her talking about it to Corin in bed on LF?

btw, what do 'most female' do?

Like when girls get carried away with insults or just general dicking around, the lad takes the p (or in this case chucks her in the pool), woman gets upset because the lads 'gone too far'. Happens all the time.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by starry

Not really he dragged her across to the pool and threw her in even though she said stop. Hopefully this at least turns some people against JJ anyway, I really hope it hurts his chances in this series of doing that well.

Thats a really spiteful position to take tbh... You might not like JJ but to want him to suffer from a silly little girl's false accusations and drama staging is just wrong.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by starry

I don't think so, it's shown Ife to be as big a bitch as... etc

Like I say, I am no fan of Ife, but she has got Shunshine bang on.

[starry]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Thats a really spiteful position to take tbh... You might not like JJ but to want him to suffer from a silly little girl's false accusations and drama staging is just wrong.

What evidence have you got that anything she said to BB was false? You seem to be taking the spiteful position.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by starry

What evidence have you got that anything she said to BB was false? You seem to be taking the spiteful position.

I have been watching LF all through it and listened to what SS said to Corin about what she said when she went in the DR.

You?

[red]

i've not seen this yet but this reminds me of charlie & rodrigo last year when roddie spilled cooking oil on charlie's bed

[starry]

Originally Posted by red

i've not seen this yet but this reminds me of charlie & rodrigo last year when roddie spilled cooking oil on charlie's bed

It sounds worse to me, but apparently it was NOT shown on LF anyway. Dragging someone out and throwing someone into a pool has been done before but is potentially dangerous. And I heard what Sunshine told Corin (who predictably sat on the fence as always) and that was that what JJ did was 100x more than what she did and that she told him to stop.

[starry]

Some of the bitching apparently was pretty nasty as well. I can only go by what others have said but it wasn't just about her becoming a doctor they were apparently joking about her body (genitals?) too. This is the undercurrent that has been against her from the turds in the house from the start.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by starry

It sounds worse to me, but apparently it was NOT shown on LF anyway. Dragging someone out and throwing someone into a pool has been done before but is potentially dangerous. And I heard what Sunshine told Corin (who predictably sat on the fence as always) and that was that what JJ did was 100x more than what she did and that she told him to stop.

I didnt say the actual act was show... oh nm, your way too entrenched as a Shunshine fan to even discuss this with. It's pointless.

The rest of the house will turn on Shunny after this though, mark my words (except Ben ofc who will move to re-recruit her asap), but I expect all you fans of hers will be playing the 'shes a victim' and 'bully' cards loud and proud about this nonethless. You all know it's the only real chance she has of winning.

[NeoPhoenix]

Trying to be as objective as possible here, I haven't seen the LF so I'm just going by what I've heard in this thread. If it is true that JJ warned her before she threw water on him, then she deserves what she got.

Hypothetical situation: If I tell a guy I'm going to punch him in the stomach, and he warns me that if I do, he is going to kick my ass, what right in the world do I have to complain when that man makes good on his promise and beats me to a bloody pulp?

It makes no sense to me whatsoever that someone would defend SS in this situation. She did something to JJ that he obviously didn't want to happen to him. He gave it back to her in return. Why is he the bad guy in this situation? If SS didn't want to end up in the pool, she shouldn't have thrown water on JJ, simple as that.

[starry]

Some of the house never gave her a chance anyway, so it didn't really matter. Her and John no doubt like each other alot less now but she was always better off without him anyway.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

sunshine was one of may favourites but after watchin LF it seems sunshine is almost crying "rape" this is gonna turn into rapegate and will add plenty of fuel to the fire for the JJ haters

i supported her on crispgate against the bitches but in this case she is dangerously selfish and not thinking how this situation will affect perception of JJ

do you think sam and amanda would have reacted like sunshine during all their flirtin and messin about with liam???

[starry]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

sunshine was one of may favourites but after watchin LF it seems sunshine is almost crying "rape" this is gonna turn into rapegate and will add plenty of fuel to the fire for the JJ haters

I haven't seen any evidence she is crying rape at all. She just told him to stop and she thinks he went too far. She may even have said she didn't want him called to the DR. But we know what the bitches in the house will conclude, and that the particular section of the audience that sides with such bitches will want to think as well.

[starry]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

Trying to be as objective as possible here, I haven't seen the LF so I'm just going by what I've heard in this thread. If it is true that JJ warned her before she threw water on him, then she deserves what she got.

Hypothetical situation: If I tell a guy I'm going to punch him in the stomach, and he warns me that if I do, he is going to kick my ass, what right in the world do I have to complain when that man makes good on his promise and beats me to a bloody pulp?

It makes no sense to me whatsoever that someone would defend SS in this situation. She did something to JJ that he obviously didn't want to happen to him. He gave it back to her in return. Why is he the bad guy in this situation? If SS didn't want to end up in the pool, she shouldn't have thrown water on JJ, simple as that.

Throwing a little bit of water at someone's head is very different to dragging someone off to a pool and throwing them in.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Originally Posted by starry

I haven't seen any evidence she is crying rape at all. She just told him to stop and she thinks he went too far. She may even have said she didn't want him called to the DR. But we know what the bitches in the house will conclude, and that the particular section of the audience that sides with such bitches will want to think as well.

i have heard her say in bed with corin "he made me bleed" and "i was telling him to stop stop stop" as if she is saying it for added effect

why say it in that way "he made me bleed" just say he gave me carpet burn

so many times in BB i have seen the lads throwin girls in pool and all kinda stuff no one else has ever reacted like sunshine did

[cazzy555]

I'm not sure who's to blame and I don't really like either of them I think the whole thing just got blown out of proportion because sunshine got upset about it.

one point I would like others to consider though - there is not much is this world more frightening for a woman than when she realises how physicaly weak she is compared to a man when he uses his strength against her. now I'm not saying he should be treated like he raped her but I bet he scared her and thats why she got upset.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Dannyboii

I wouldnt say shes playing the victim card, just doing what most female do

being an annoying little weirdo? most women dont do that just really self centered nutters!

she is rapidly digging her own grave in that house its lucky for her there are bigger fish to fry in that house at the moment.

[NeoPhoenix]

Originally Posted by starry

Throwing a little bit of water at someone's head is very different to dragging someone off to a pool and throwing them in.

The point I was trying to make here is that what happened to SS could have been avoided entirely by SS had she not thrown water on JJ in the first place. You don't get to play the victim when you are the one who instigated the situation. If JJ had done what he did without provocation, then I'd be on Sunshine's side 100%, but that is not the case. Hell, I was even on Sunshine's side during the whole Crispgate debacle.

Bottom line is Sunshine's fate was in her own hands and she made the wrong decision. She was warned and chose to ignore that warning, therefore she deserves what she got. It's not as if JJ physically beat her up or anything. She got thrown in a pool, big friggin deal. Most of us learn at a young age that there are consequences for our actions, apparently Sunshine missed that lesson. I have absolutely no sympathy at all for her in this situation.

[Barbie]

I'm presuming he didn't reveal her modesty on purpose..

so then she can't complain if he warned her what he would do...

If i say im going to do something to a guy and they say they will do such and such then i will do it anyway to call their bluff, but when they do it i don't throw a strop because i was warned

it is then an "informed decision" lol

[starry]

In BB10 Big Brother actually warned HMs not to not throw someone in the pool by an announcement. I don't really see any difference, except that that was a man (Rodrigo) and this was a woman. Obvious double standards.

[charmingmissc]

Originally Posted by Barbie

I'm presuming he didn't reveal her modesty on purpose..

so then she can't complain if he warned her what he would do...

If i say im going to do something to a guy and they say they will do such and such then i will do it anyway to call their bluff, but when they do it i don't throw a strop because i was warned

it is then an "informed decision" lol

i agree with your point of view, because that is the way i deal with joshing about.
she chose to throw the water, he did what he said he would do.

[NeoPhoenix]

The only double standard here, starry, is that you seem to think SS's behavior was justified because she is a woman and not a man. I guarantee if this was one of the guys JJ did this to, you wouldn't be harping all over JJ for it. I'm sure JJ was probably warned in the DR about this situation. Also if I recall correctly, Rodrigo didn't instigate the situation that led to him being carried to the pool either. Sunshine did. There's a big difference there.