[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

It'd be really sweet if like Ben won, and Mario came 2nd.

crawler

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by Claymores

crawler

It would though! That would actually make a really good final.

And Shabby survived.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

your feeling the heat vesavius i think

Ben haters are deluded

lmao you keep saying that Arse, but every time I say I havent a clue what 'heat' or 'pressure' your talking about and ask you to expand to vanish from the boards...

Want to try here for me? I would love to know why I should be feeling all this stuff lol.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

josie will go down hill nothign too her but JJ

ben is full of greatness

Ben has peaked, you know it and I know it. Your being deluded as to his mass popularity due to he is being liked by a block of people over at DS

If he is still third after all the free camera time BB has poured over him he will go no higher. Literally every time BB tried to save him he screws it all up again. The man is just a self destructive numbnuts lmao... must be painful to watch as a fanboi

The next few days are gonna be tough for Ben supporters... I hope you will be around here? I notice that you seem to take holidays when Ben has it rough


Btw, look at your last 2 posts here that I have quoted... your starting to look like a frikin android... 'ben is king, he will win, you will be assimilated...' The dead eyed denial is getting scary lol.

[fruit_cake]

Ben's a good housemate, i don't see why he can't win, i don't really see how anyone can dislike him??

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Ben has peaked, you know it and I know it. Your being deluded as to his mass popularity due to he is liked by a block of people over at DS

If he is still third after all the free camera time BB has poured over him he will go no higher. Every time BB tried to save him he literally screws it all up again. The man is just just self destructive lmao... must be painful to watch

The next few days are gonna be tough for Ben supporters... I hope you will be around here? I notice that you seem to take holidays when Ben has it rough

What he has proved is that he is true to himself - and doesn't act in a certain way to win over other hms and/or the public!

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

What he has proved is that he is true to himself - and doesn't act in a certain way to win over other hms and/or the public!

If you by 'true to himself' you mean 'self serving lieing manipulative user that dosent give a crap about anyone else' then, yes, I agree.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by vesavius

If you by 'true to himself' you mean 'self serving lieing manipulative user that dosent give a crap about anyone else' then, yes, I agree.

don't you think thats going a little bit too far? Ben is self-centred, but that doesn't make him selfish.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

don't you think thats going a little bit too far? Ben is self-centred, but that doesn't make him selfish.

No, I honestly don't.

And selfish? Yes, for sure.

Only a selfish man would pass on a punishment, knowing full well his friend would have to do it in his place.

[MrWong]

Ben will not win.

Best to get that into your head now otherwise you will feel very disappointed when he eventually gets the boot.

Lying, lazy, bitchy, manipulative, schemers never win. No matter how 'funny' they are percieved as.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Ben's a good housemate, i don't see why he can't win, i don't really see how anyone can dislike him??

I'll tell you why:

- Gossiping/bitching about his own alleged 'group' of pals

- Openly stating he is in BB solely for self-promotion rather than any aspects of the experience........and that he is not prepered to act as a team player

- Putting his foot in it (think of the lies he made up about his ToT task that he’d have to do horrible things to others like steal Shabby’s other hats)

- Refusing to put any effort into tasks and/or giving-up in huge melodramatics (think the wall sticking task)

- Constantly rule breaking (eg the hot water infraction which he even tried to weasel away from responsibility for - he said in DR "Can you let the others know about the hot water without mentioning me?"

- Wimping out of taking his punishment for revealing he'd had a secret mission from ToT (and knowingly dropping Dave and potentially the whole house in the brown sticky-stuff)

Leaving aside my prejudices regarding his elitist perceptions/attitudes to life, I tend to think of him as a thoroughly awful, self-serving individual.

[Chels]

Well Andy you better hope they don't show him being an utter twatty snob on tonight's HLs. If it's shown then it could be byebye Ben soon.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Claymores

I'll tell you why:

- Gossiping/bitching about his own alleged 'group' of pals

- Openly stating he is in BB solely for self-promotion rather than any aspects of the experience........and that he is not prepered to act as a team player- Putting his foot in it (think of the lies he made up about his ToT task that he’d have to do horrible things to others like steal Shabby’s other hats)

- Refusing to put any effort into tasks and/or giving-up in huge melodramatics (think the wall sticking task)

- Constantly rule breaking (eg the hot water infraction which he even tried to weasel away from responsibility for - he said in DR "Can you let the others know about the hot water without mentioning me?"

- Wimping out of taking his punishment for revealing he'd had a secret mission from ToT (and knowingly dropping Dave and potentially the whole house in the brown sticky-stuff)

Leaving aside my prejudices regarding his elitist perceptions/attitudes to life, I tend to think of him as a thoroughly awful, self-serving individual.

At least he has the guts to be honest about that! They are all in there for reasons of self-promotion (with perhaps the exception of Steve) - just too scared and too damn fake to admit it!

[MrGaryy]

He won't win because the housemates have totally ran out of common enemies and so he'll be up various times until he eventually will be evicted.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

He won't win because the housemates have totally ran out of common enemies and so he'll be up various times until he eventually will be evicted.

He won't win because he is a feckless selfish manipulating liar, and as such he has turned pretty much the entire house against him (even his best 'friends') as they have woken up to him.

But, details aside, I agree with the spirit of your post

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

At least he has the guts to be honest about that! They are all in there for reasons of self-promotion (with perhaps the exception of Steve) - just too scared and too damn fake to admit it!

You know full-well that is not relevant to the point I was making. The post I answered said he was a great HM who nobody could dislike. I essentially answered that he was a self-serving egotistical prat, with no concept of working for the good of the group over his own self-worth and promotion.

I also mentioned he has stated he has no interest in BB and cannot see that the experience in itself can be worthwhile in any way. If that is your definition of a good HM, then god help you.

These attitudes to life are archatypically Thatcherist so it's no wonder that he idolises Saint Maggie and Jeffrey Archer.

I must assume you hold these values too

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Claymores

You know full-well that is not relevant to the point I was making. The post I answered said he was a great HM who nobody could dislike. I essentially answered that he was a self-serving egotistical prat, with no concept of working for the good of the group over his own self-worth and promotion.

I also mentioned he has stated he has no interest in BB and cannot see that the experience in itself can be worthwhile in any way. If that is your definition of a good HM, then god help you.

These attitudes to life are archatypically Thatcherist so it's no wonder that he idolises Saint Maggie and Jeffrey Archer.

I must assume you hold these values too

LOL,Blimey you are obscessed with Jeffery archer Did he murder someone?

[Braden]

Look what happend with Freddie, everyone thought it was adone deal when he was favourite to win and survived ever eviction, but his true colours came out and he turned into a cocky ****. Sophie deserved to win.

Not saying Ben is cocky, because I like him. but I just don't think he's got the potential to win.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Claymores

I'll tell you why:

- Gossiping/bitching about his own alleged 'group' of pals

- Openly stating he is in BB solely for self-promotion rather than any aspects of the experience........and that he is not prepered to act as a team player

- Putting his foot in it (think of the lies he made up about his ToT task that he’d have to do horrible things to others like steal Shabby’s other hats)

- Refusing to put any effort into tasks and/or giving-up in huge melodramatics (think the wall sticking task)

- Constantly rule breaking (eg the hot water infraction which he even tried to weasel away from responsibility for - he said in DR "Can you let the others know about the hot water without mentioning me?"

- Wimping out of taking his punishment for revealing he'd had a secret mission from ToT (and knowingly dropping Dave and potentially the whole house in the brown sticky-stuff)

Leaving aside my prejudices regarding his elitist perceptions/attitudes to life, I tend to think of him as a thoroughly awful, self-serving individual.

Don't forget Jeffery Archer,pmsl.

[Angus]

Yet despite all the haters, he tops the forum polls (not just on this forum) and is in top 3 to win with the bookmakers

[Braden]

Oh and 'Monk' will never come second!

[MeMyselfAndI]

now Sunshines gone your right he has no competition as JJ is hated
well josie might be competition

[Beso]

Bens the type of housemate who's personality should not be disected, just sit back and enjoy the ride.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by angus58

Yet despite all the haters, he tops the forum polls (not just on this forum) and is in top 3 to win with the bookmakers

lol you would be a fool to put any faith in forum polls, here, at DS, or otherwise. They are no representation of how the larger public will vote come the day, just the concentrated opinion of the hardcore BB minority, many of who (mainly from DS) direct focused support/ hate campaigns in order to protect their betting stakes (you will see many DS users come here, post one pro Ben statement and then vanish for days for instance, just to keep the illusion of wide support for Ben alive).

As for being top 3 with the bookies right now... well, tbh, if he isnt the clear favourite by now with all the free camera time and solo tasks that BB have given him then he will never be... Especially as he has now self destructed his own clique in the house by being openly exposed as a feckless manipulative selfish liar

He has had his chance, shot his bolt, and failed.

[GiRTh]

I agree with Claymore and Vesavius stance and would like to re-iterate Braden's post.

Freddie was a much more likable toff yet his cockiness shone thru in the end. There will come a week when Ben goes too far with his condescedning attitude to the HM's and the whole experience and BB wont be able to manipulate the footage to keep him in. There is not chance in hell Ben is going to win BB.