[bansheewails]

Originally Posted by pixee

No it is okay haha I wasn't clear enough. Wasn't a point about Dave not answering or Caoimhe asking just a summary of what i think Dave believes as this was a big issue when he first made his statement about gay marriage near the start.

Zippy you don't like her i think we understand.

I do think that Dave does believe in those things. He just is not very clear about explaining them.

Caoimhe has come from a very religious back ground, where homosexuality condems you to 'hell' nice person or not.

I think between her lack of understanding other religious beliefs and Dave not explaining clearly has lead to this falling out.

[pixee]

Originally Posted by bansheewails

I do think that Dave does believe in those things. He just is not very clear about explaining them.

Caoimhe has come from a very religious back ground, where homosexuality condems you to 'hell' nice person or not.

I think between her lack of understanding other religious beliefs and Dave not explaining clearly has lead to this falling out.

Agreed

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by pixee

Agreed

All this came about because of Ife harping on for four weeks about Dave's attitude to gay 'marriage'. She knew that it would turn the public against him.

Dave should have said there is no such thing as 'gay marriage'.

There is a civil partnership now allowed under the law for same sex people. It is not a marriage and the law does not say it is.
The law was changed to allow two people of the same sex partnership to have the rights of a male and female marriage ie passing on the home to the partner etc
Before this change they had no rights even when they had lived together for 20+ years

[calyman]

Originally Posted by boomoo

All this came about because of Ife harping on for four weeks about Dave's attitude to gay 'marriage'. She knew that it would turn the public against him.

Dave should have said there is no such thing as 'gay marriage'.

There is a civil partnership now allowed under the law for same sex people. It is not a marriage and the law does not say it is.
The law was changed to allow two people of the same sex partnership to have the rights of a male and female marriage ie passing on the home to the partner etc
Before this change they had no rights even when they had lived together for 20+ years

I'm so fed up with pedants always trying to distinguish Marriage from Civil Partnership. As far as the Government is concerned, they are exactly the same. It is only the religious homophobes pressurising Government that succeeded in having the Gay marriage, termed "civil partnership".

The clue is in the word "marriage", below is an average defintion of what the word means.

"Marriage is a social union or legal contract between individuals that creates kinship. It is an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually intimate and sexual, are acknowledged in a variety of ways, depending on the culture or subculture in which it is found. Such a union may also be called matrimony, while the ceremony that marks its beginning is usually called a wedding."

You will note that this also applies to "civil partnership", ergo, unless you are a homophobe, both terms mean exactly the same thing.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by bansheewails

I do think that Dave does believe in those things. He just is not very clear about explaining them.

Caoimhe has come from a very religious back ground, where homosexuality condems you to 'hell' nice person or not.

I think between her lack of understanding other religious beliefs and Dave not explaining clearly has lead to this falling out.

Caoimhe was saying religion should not be in schools. From her background she knows more about that than Dave. If you live in a land where people have been killing people in the name of religion you can see why she does not want to listen to people preaching.
Of course those who kill in the name of their religion are not listening to 'Thou shalt not kill'.