[Claymores]

HERO - You started the thread dissing keeva tho which is where I thought FM fight started

I hope I was being more middle and seeing what I saw LF

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by Blueisthecolour

The last bit shown in the bathroom was John saying words to the effect that "Oh well, Caiomhe didn't actually tell me what your feeling are???".

He was clearly (to me), trying to get her to give him a vibe - to which he could respond.

But she either misunderstood or chose not to answer because she stood up and walked out at that point.

I wish he told her Keeva just told me you do not fancy me, that would have made it an interesting show LOL

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by Claymores

HERO - You started the thread dissing keeva tho which is where I thought FM fight started

Yes, and, I still believe Keeva opened her gob and said something damaging. It was more to do with JJ's disheartened reaction and then claiming in a defensive manner he did not fancy her either.

I have not taken anything back, really, well apart from the fact they poster who attacked me claimed Josie knows about it now.

On the whole bathroom incident, I still believe Keeva had no business to poke her nose in and blab and lie.

[stoney]

the "plan" rachel made with Caoimhe was to discuss relationships but NOT to bring Josie's and JJ's one in at first to try to get the general vibe from him.

She just blurted out that Josie did not fancy him before JJ hid and said that he has NEVER thought that way about her.

Caoimhe loved every minute of wrecking the showmance cos it would have left her with only wee andrew to talk with

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Hero1

If JJ and Josie are too scared to tell each other, I do not know how Keeva made it her business to tell him a lie, she could have just stated she truly does not know what Josie feels about him and it is best for them to take their time and sort it out between themselves.

Nobody wants to put themself out there tho.........Josie felt an idiot, JJ was told sho only likes you as a pal - from a shy male perspective I'd have done a JJ

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Hero1

Yes, and, I still believe Keeva opened her gob and said something damaging. It was more to do with JJ's disheartened reaction and then claiming in a defensive manner he did not fancy her either.

I have not taken anything back, really, well apart from the fact they poster who attacked me claimed Josie knows about it now.

On the whole bathroom incident, I still believe Keeva had no business to poke her nose in and blab and lie.

and apologised for...but thanks for acknowledging that fact. I now know what sort of poster i'm dealing with in the future.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Nobody wants to put themself out there tho.........Josie felt an idiot, JJ was told sho only likes you as a pal - from a shy male perspective I'd have done a JJ

anyone would, I mean if someone said asked you if you fancied someone who you'd just been told didn't fancy you, you're not likely to say yeah I do!

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by parmnion

and apologised for...but thanks for acknowledging that fact. I now know what sort of poster i'm dealing with in the future.

Hey, give me some credit atleast I handled you and did not go crying to the mods LOL

[Blueisthecolour]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

anyone would, I mean if someone said asked you if you fancied someone who you'd just been told didn't fancy you, you're not likely to say yeah I do!

Anybody would have done the same - well, apart from Rachael who happily told JJ she was hot for him, even when he'd told her he wouldn't touch her with a bargepole.

I'm finding the John and Josie thing quite excruciating, I never realised I was such a softie.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

anyone would, I mean if someone said asked you if you fancied someone who you'd just been told didn't fancy you, you're not likely to say yeah I do!

Simple answer Naimh and if they work it of not, it's not Keeva's fault which I think FMs are arguing over.

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by Blueisthecolour

Anybody would have done the same - well, apart from Rachael who happily told JJ she was hot for him, even when he'd told her he wouldn't touch her with a bargepole.

I'm finding the John and Josie thing quite excruciating, I never realised I was such a softie.

You make a good point, the way JJ attacked Rachel even after she told him she fancied him, you can see why Josie might be scared.

Maybe I should not attacked Keeva, who knows how JJ's mind works or operates or what he wants to hear. He certainly was crushed when Keeva told him Josie did not fancy him, but them he might have been pissed if she told him she did fancy him....but that is the beauty of keeping your nose out of other people's beeswax!

[Hero1]

Maybe I think this way because I have done counselling before and know the importance of being all ears, helping one discover what they want to do by themselves without giving any advise..as the advise can be wrong and resented over time, keeping stom with all the information one has given out, and not even telling ones family.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Simple answer Naimh and if they work it of not, it's not Keeva's fault which I think FMs are arguing over.

No it wasn't her fault, she was just expecting him to be telepathic!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Hero1

Maybe I think this way because I have done counselling before and know the importance of being all ears, helping one discover what they want to do by themselves without giving any advise..as the advise can be wrong and resented over time, keeping stom with all the information one has given out, and not even telling ones family.

Yeah I have to agree with you here really, Caoimhe shouldn't have said anything at all, I really do think she was trying to help but it wasn't at all helpful in the end

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Blueisthecolour

Anybody would have done the same - well, apart from Rachael who happily told JJ she was hot for him, even when he'd told her he wouldn't touch her with a bargepole.

I'm finding the John and Josie thing quite excruciating, I never realised I was such a softie.

haha, aw me too

[Beso]

One things for certain, there was nothing malicious about keevas actions, her sad face when he said he had no feelings for josie said more than a thousand words..ps, hardy ****ing har har ife, lost her prize from bob righter.

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by parmnion

One things for certain, there was nothing malicious about keevas actions, her sad face when he said he had no feelings for josie said more than a thousand words..ps, hardy ****ing har har ife, lost her prize from bob righter.

One a blind person could tell he was LYING, two her face did not look any much better when he was saying he did have feelings for her before. It was quite obvious he was saying something was there, but he is not too sure after those revelations.

AFTER Caoimhe's and Shabby's crush thing, I think Caoimhe more than any other housemates knows what she is doing.

[JEJ]

The whole thing was very playground, (and I think that was Rachel's fault.) I think Quaver meant well but, Jesus, why doesn't she just bang their heads together?

I actually think JJ might be weighing up the practicalities of starting anything on account of them being on opposite sides of the globe. Josie is just scared to make an idiot of herself in such a public situation. He exposes his underbelly (metaphorically) to her more than she does him though for sure.

I agree they'll probably get it together after the show but I'm not sure it's a good thing, they are both very damaged individuals and, unless they're completely different in real life, they aren't good for each other. I kind of hope it is all a game plan for JJ because if it isn't I can imagine Josie continuing to punish him for her insecurities whenever they were apart, once the show is over he really needs to shake her off.

[Jords]

Has Josie turned on Caoimhe (and John James)?

[Julesuk]

Grow a pair John and just tell her how you feel!

[Hero1]

Was I right or was I right, Keeva had no rights to lie to JJ about Josie not fancying him, Josie has built up a resentment about it, and it was also damn sneaky of Keeva to make sly moves on JJ after her self oppointed annoucement!

[Jamietwo]

people from whatever inbred genetic cesspool camel comes from will at least know what shes about now, and see her coming. Oh and camel does not love her bf, the reason she left is that inspite of her constant backstabbing and bellitling she cannot cope with adult confrontation. she will be forgotten in 2 weeks.... a couple of pints with shabby up the west end and it's ryan air time and last weeks news.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Hero1

Caoimhe the bithced LIED, she told JJ that Josie does not fancy him, when she does.

Just telling senstive JJ that PORKIES when he trusts her, he is going to start having negative feelings and build up a barrier towards Josie from now on in, and because Josie is not upfront honest, neither is JJ they are going to have misfiring communications and slowly fall apart....while the creep also known as Cameltoe sneaks in.

GET CAMELTOE OUT!

Josie is the one telling all the porkies - my god, what show are you watching! She even admits it half the time!

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Hero1

Caoimhe the bithced LIED, she told JJ that Josie does not fancy him, when she does.

Just telling senstive JJ that PORKIES when he trusts her, he is going to start having negative feelings and build up a barrier towards Josie from now on in, and because Josie is not upfront honest, neither is JJ they are going to have misfiring communications and slowly fall apart....while the creep also known as Cameltoe sneaks in.

GET CAMELTOE OUT!

No really, she doesn't.

JJ will be building that barrier with gusto when he watches the footage back and realises what a jealous, manipulative cowbag Josie's been.

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Josie is the one telling all the porkies - my god, what show are you watching! She even admits it half the time!

Okay, when someone makes a strong statement, a little explanation or example would not go amiss, just to back up the claims.

This post was also based on the whole superhero task and what commenced after the girl talk.

We all knew Josie did not want to admit to JJ that she fancied him, but that is far from someone taking upon themselves AFTER THE WHOLE GIRL CHAT to say someone does not fancy a person, then slyly coming onto the same person...of course one is asking for trouble no matter what.