[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kore

But Corin is clearly puttin on an act...? And JJ is real, he is opinionated, and he tells people how he feels. No way is that considered 'bullying'

He doesnt Pick on weaker people!!! Ben isnt weaker!

Of course your opinion is biased against JJ... he can do no right, you only pick his faults. Do you even watch the show and sit back and enjoy it? or do you put your face up to the screen and watch JJs every move to find his faults

Whenever JJ doesnt agree with fm fav hm8s (Ben Borin)he is a BULLY ,they obviously have never seen a bully at work !! JJ speaks his mind ,is 100% HONEST but a bully? no way

[stoney]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Whenever JJ doesnt agree with fm fav hm8s (Ben Borin)he is a BULLY ,they obviously have never seen a bully at work !! JJ speaks his mind ,is 100% HONEST but a bully? no way

How can you saty he is 100% honest.

Last night he repeatedly told us all how much he tries in every task didnt he. Was that him trying to pass this task last night, or didnt it matter cos it was only for Ben's suitcase
He has also said 2 times now that he didnt try in the S+R task so which one is the lie ( did he try or not)
He says that ben costs them food and hot water, a lie..........when has Ben cost them anything from the food budget as opposed to JJ who did cost them their first kuxury budget
He may speak his mind, after being told by someone what it is, but there is no need for the aggressive over the top repitition while not allowing the other person to state their case is there

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

JJ ...is 100% HONEST but a bully? no way

You're 100% gullible, more like.

[Kazanne]

ben also won them a luxury budget

[Kore]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Whenever JJ doesnt agree with fm fav hm8s (Ben Borin)he is a BULLY ,they obviously have never seen a bully at work !! JJ speaks his mind ,is 100% HONEST but a bully? no way

totally agree! at least JJ tries in team tasks. Ben has ADMITTED not trying and clearly is selfish to the rest of the group.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kore

totally agree! at least JJ tries in team tasks. Ben has ADMITTED not trying and clearly is selfish to the rest of the group.

So JJ lost them a shopping budget onec and Ben won them one,Hmmmm

[stoney]

Originally Posted by Kore

totally agree! at least JJ tries in team tasks. Ben has ADMITTED not trying and clearly is selfish to the rest of the group.

Ben haters keep claiming this but can you point out one team task he has not tried

also this repetitive cowardly rant was during a team task where people had to act pleasant and like a toff. Was JJ even trying

[serensilver]

Wow! i didnt expect so many replies!

I dont know how many of you have actually watched the live feed from JJ and ben yet. however Ben asked JJ what his problem was up until then JJ hasnt said anything that bad to him, Ben asked so JJ told him that it is selfish that ben doesnt get involved in tasks and doesnt care about other housemates. Ben couldnt handle this and started getting personnal with JJ saying about him being unemployed etc JJ never got personal all the things he said to ben were about the Big Brother house.

JJ has admitted that he has anger issues and has said he is toning it down as he doesnt want to upset the other housemates, during the whole conversation/disagreement JJ stayed lounging on his bed not shouting/intimmidating towards Ben.

As for the tasks Ben couldnt do the Exercise task because he wasnt strong enough so he sent and overweight 40 year old instead!

He had to end the one task where he was sellotaped to the wall.

When Titan said about the robot tasks ben said "what is mario getting so wound up about its only a bloody robot"
The arm wrestling task.

During the robot tasks the housemates sent Ben to do the hair cutting because he would cut someone else's hair not his own so he would do that, and also becasue he wouldnt be in the final showdown because he wouldnt be interested in doing it!

He has done some tasks i no like the superhero one where he was put in the room for 5 hours? hardly difficult really?

He did the puppet task, the one where they were on the flying table thing and some others he just needs to help the others to get the luxury budget and hot water!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by serensilver

Wow! i didnt expect so many replies!

I dont know how many of you have actually watched the live feed from JJ and ben yet. however Ben asked JJ what his problem was up until then JJ hasnt said anything that bad to him, Ben asked so JJ told him that it is selfish that ben doesnt get involved in tasks and doesnt care about other housemates. Ben couldnt handle this and started getting personnal with JJ saying about him being unemployed etc JJ never got personal all the things he said to ben were about the Big Brother house.

JJ has admitted that he has anger issues and has said he is toning it down as he doesnt want to upset the other housemates, during the whole conversation/disagreement JJ stayed lounging on his bed not shouting/intimmidating towards Ben.

As for the tasks Ben couldnt do the Exercise task because he wasnt strong enough so he sent and overweight 40 year old instead!

He had to end the one task where he was sellotaped to the wall.

When Titan said about the robot tasks ben said "what is mario getting so wound up about its only a bloody robot"
The arm wrestling task.

During the robot tasks the housemates sent Ben to do the hair cutting because he would cut someone else's hair not his own so he would do that, and also becasue he wouldnt be in the final showdown because he wouldnt be interested in doing it!

He has done some tasks i no like the superhero one where he was put in the room for 5 hours? hardly difficult really?

He did the puppet task, the one where they were on the flying table thing and some others he just needs to help the others to get the luxury budget and hot water!

You are kidding,JJ has been needling Ben since he did the standup,you have obviously been blinded by jjs so called good looks but those that watch the program have picked up on it,its been going on for weeks,as for the tasks I didnt see JJ rushing to get his rat tails cut,also the throwing of the bronco task although we all know he didnt throw it he lost!!and this latest task he has totally blown simply because he is a spoilt jealous child,

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kore

But Corin is clearly puttin on an act...? And JJ is real, he is opinionated, and he tells people how he feels. No way is that considered 'bullying'

He doesnt Pick on weaker people!!! Ben isnt weaker!

Of course your opinion is biased against JJ... he can do no right, you only pick his faults. Do you even watch the show and sit back and enjoy it? or do you put your face up to the screen and watch JJs every move to find his faults

but ben isnt that strong in arguing because they shout over him so yeah he does have a go on people that he thinks are weak.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Ben is his own person. If he doesnt wanna do certain tasks then he shouldnt. End of.

BB HMs should be true to themselves first and foremost.

And JJ should shut his angry gob and stop dangling his carrot in Josies face!

Ben should loosen up.. not be a party pooper and get stuck in the tasks!!

[Zippy]

Bens a rubbish arguer to be fair. He's to passive and polite.

But he still whipped JJs ass!

[serensilver]

Originally Posted by kazanne

You are kidding,JJ has been needling Ben since he did the standup,you have obviously been blinded by jjs so called good looks but those that watch the program have picked up on it,its been going on for weeks,as for the tasks I didnt see JJ rushing to get his rat tails cut,also the throwing of the bronco task although we all know he didnt throw it he lost!!and this latest task he has totally blown simply because he is a spoilt jealous child,

Im not saying JJ hasnt "been meddling" (sounds quite rude) with Ben but as dave said JJ is joking about and ben is too sensitive. JJ has never had a full blown row with ben obviously little comments but everyone says them, dave,JJ nathan,josie,mario,steve etc!

How has he blown the latest task? last i saw him he had his pink (ben) shirt on and his wig?

[stoney]

Originally Posted by serensilver

Wow! i didnt expect so many replies!

I dont know how many of you have actually watched the live feed from JJ and ben yet. however Ben asked JJ what his problem was up until then JJ hasnt said anything that bad to him, Ben asked so JJ told him that it is selfish that ben doesnt get involved in tasks and doesnt care about other housemates. Ben couldnt handle this and started getting personnal with JJ saying about him being unemployed etc JJ never got personal all the things he said to ben were about the Big Brother house.

JJ has admitted that he has anger issues and has said he is toning it down as he doesnt want to upset the other housemates, during the whole conversation/disagreement JJ stayed lounging on his bed not shouting/intimmidating towards Ben.

As for the tasks Ben couldnt do the Exercise task because he wasnt strong enough so he sent and overweight 40 year old instead!

He had to end the one task where he was sellotaped to the wall.

When Titan said about the robot tasks ben said "what is mario getting so wound up about its only a bloody robot"
The arm wrestling task.

During the robot tasks the housemates sent Ben to do the hair cutting because he would cut someone else's hair not his own so he would do that, and also becasue he wouldnt be in the final showdown because he wouldnt be interested in doing it!

He has done some tasks i no like the superhero one where he was put in the room for 5 hours? hardly difficult really?

He did the puppet task, the one where they were on the flying table thing and some others he just needs to help the others to get the luxury budget and hot water!

just a wee corection.
Ben never said anything about JJ being unempleyed cos Ben knows that JJ is living off the inheritance daddy left him.

He said in a reply to a JJ quip about his hair that JJ's mop made him look unemployed. Not very funny but as usual JJ over-reacted

Yep JJ has SAID he will tone down his temper and aggression, remind me again was that before or after he shouted at ben in that aggressive way about NOT caring what the GBP think

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by serensilver

Im not saying JJ hasnt "been meddling" (sounds quite rude) with Ben but as dave said JJ is joking about and ben is too sensitive. JJ has never had a full blown row with ben obviously little comments but everyone says them, dave,JJ nathan,josie,mario,steve etc!

How has he blown the latest task? last i saw him he had his pink (ben) shirt on and his wig?

ben is not the one crying in the dairy room saying he will leave the house if he dont make back up with somebody.

so your point is invalid.

[serensilver]

But he still whipped JJs ass!

Hardly JJ was lying on the bed talking! it would be different if he was standing and yelling at Ben.

[serensilver]

Originally Posted by stoney

just a wee corection.
Ben never said anything about JJ being unempleyed cos Ben knows that JJ is living off the inheritance daddy left him.

He said in a reply to a JJ quip about his hair that JJ's mop made him look unemployed. Not very funny but as usual JJ over-reacted

Yep JJ has SAID he will tone down his temper and aggression, remind me again was that before or after he shouted at ben in that aggressive way about NOT caring what the GBP think

So.......... he mentioned unemployment didnt he? come on JJ wasnt aggresive and as for what the GBP think its with regards to he isnt acting up for the cameras like he says some people are.

i chuckled at your "just a wee correction" comment i was like oh god have a done a spelling mistake

[Kore]

Originally Posted by serensilver

Wow! i didnt expect so many replies!

I dont know how many of you have actually watched the live feed from JJ and ben yet. however Ben asked JJ what his problem was up until then JJ hasnt said anything that bad to him, Ben asked so JJ told him that it is selfish that ben doesnt get involved in tasks and doesnt care about other housemates. Ben couldnt handle this and started getting personnal with JJ saying about him being unemployed etc JJ never got personal all the things he said to ben were about the Big Brother house.

JJ has admitted that he has anger issues and has said he is toning it down as he doesnt want to upset the other housemates, during the whole conversation/disagreement JJ stayed lounging on his bed not shouting/intimmidating towards Ben.

As for the tasks Ben couldnt do the Exercise task because he wasnt strong enough so he sent and overweight 40 year old instead!

He had to end the one task where he was sellotaped to the wall.

When Titan said about the robot tasks ben said "what is mario getting so wound up about its only a bloody robot"
The arm wrestling task.

During the robot tasks the housemates sent Ben to do the hair cutting because he would cut someone else's hair not his own so he would do that, and also becasue he wouldnt be in the final showdown because he wouldnt be interested in doing it!

He has done some tasks i no like the superhero one where he was put in the room for 5 hours? hardly difficult really?

He did the puppet task, the one where they were on the flying table thing and some others he just needs to help the others to get the luxury budget and hot water!

Good post Seren. This is exactly how it happened. Did you see the bit where JJ accepted he needs to calm his anger down and said he will work on that for Ben's sake, however Ben REFUSED to try and change and give 100% in tasks to benefit all the housemates.

That's the difference here. Ben is Selfish and JJ is unselfish and is telling Ben how he has never met somebody as Selfish as ben before. Culture Clash.

[serensilver]

Originally Posted by Kore

Good post Seren. This is exactly how it happened. Did you see the bit where JJ accepted he needs to calm his anger down and said he will work on that for Ben's sake, however Ben REFUSED to try and change and give 100% in tasks to benefit all the housemates.

That's the difference here. Ben is Selfish and JJ is unselfish and is telling Ben how he has never met somebody as Selfish as ben before. Culture Clash.

: dance:

hey! someone who actually watched the footage and didnt poke holes in it!

: wavey:

[Kore]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Bens a rubbish arguer to be fair. He's to passive and polite.

But he still whipped JJs ass!

Your talking out of YOUR ass Zip

NO WAY did Ben whip JJs ass... definately the other way around! Ben was lost for words and ended up asking for the debate to stop because he knew he was in the wrong. Its a shame C4 editors will make JJ look like the bad guy

[supergirthuk]

Originally Posted by serensilver

On last nights live feed JJ was right, Ben is the most selfish housemate, he doesnt do anything for other people he is moaning for not having enough "alone" time ffs this is big brother its a community house you cant expect to be alone and have lights out and silence from 11:30 in the night!

Its all "poor Ben poor Ben" If Ben had his way they'd all be in bed by 11:30 and we would have nothing to watch apart from them all snoozing!

I just wish they would stop molly codling him and tell him to get involved with tasks and stop being so damn selfish!

There are plenty of places housemates can play and be raucous so why shouldnt people respect others if they want to sleep in a bedroom.

Ben repects that others are not like him and that they may not be able to contain there excitement but he just asks if people would respect that when people are sleeping that people allow them to do so.

Just because John James is sporty and enthusiastic to show himself in a good light with his competitive team spirit it doesnt mean everyone has to. Ben has as much right not to be enthusiastic as JJ has to be so.

However, if John James is the selfless person that he claims to be he would able to accept Ben's choices instead of trying to highlight what he deems as a flaw and get people in the house against Ben. This is obvious gameplay by John James as he attacks at least one housemate each week after evictions or on the Sunday before Monday's nominations. There is nothing wrong with gameplay but he is overly aggressive in the way he does it and do not be mistaken into thinking that what he would like you to believe is a selfless act will be used by himself to show himself in a good light and is therefore not selfless but a calculated gamble with a wholly selfish intent.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kore

Your talking out of YOUR ass Zip

NO WAY did Ben whip JJs ass... definately the other way around! Ben was lost for words and ended up asking for the debate to stop because he knew he was in the wrong. Its a shame C4 editors will make JJ look like the bad guy

he asked it to stop because JJ kept going over old ground as usual and his stop button brokeben said so didn't you hear him?,but IF you want to believe JJ won,who are we to stop you,dream on.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by supergirthuk

There are plenty of places housemates can play and be raucous so why shouldnt people respect others if they want to sleep in a bedroom.

Ben repects that others are not like him and that they may not be able to contain there excitement but he just asks if people would respect that when people are sleeping that people allow them to do so.

Just because John James is sporty and enthusiastic to show himself in a good light with his competitive team spirit it doesnt mean everyone has to. Ben has as much right not to be enthusiastic as JJ has to be so.

However, if John James is the selfless person that he claims to be he would able to accept Ben's choices instead of trying to highlight what he deems as a flaw and get people in the house against Ben. This is obvious gameplay by John James as he attacks at least one housemate each week after evictions or on the Sunday before Monday's nominations. There is nothing wrong with gameplay but he is overly aggressive in the way he does it and do not be mistaken into thinking that what he would like you to believe is a selfless act will be used by himself to show himself in a good light and is therefore not selfless but a calculated gamble with a wholly selfish intent.

Well posted and spot on.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Bens a rubbish arguer to be fair. He's to passive and polite.

But he still whipped JJs ass!

So you didnt watch lf last night then ?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by serensilver

Im not saying JJ hasnt "been meddling" (sounds quite rude) with Ben but as dave said JJ is joking about and ben is too sensitive. JJ has never had a full blown row with ben obviously little comments but everyone says them, dave,JJ nathan,josie,mario,steve etc!

How has he blown the latest task? last i saw him he had his pink (ben) shirt on and his wig?

they are supposed to be talking 'posh' for 24 hours are they not so jj along with others must have failed