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Originally Posted by Jords

I really dont understand why Dave has a lot of hate and not more fans, both on the forum he doesnt seem too popular and on Big Mouth and Little Brother he is always spoken about in bad light.

I think hes really likable, doesnt get nasty in drama and is very humorous and quirky. I thought to begin with he was a bit OTT and would push religion in our faces but actually hes quite the opposite and only brings it up now and then and to limits, avoiding anything that may cause offence.

So do people not like Dave because he is a strong believer in God and religion and they see that as a bad thing?

In the Glory!

Jords, I have told you a few times I have no problems with religion. I see and respect it's value to individuals and society. This is not an anti-God (or whatver diety anyone happens to follow) thing.

I have a problem though with Dave because of his leadership of a cult that pedals a counterfeit religion and uses 'hip' language (raves, jacked up, whacked) to deliberatly target the vulnerable and draw them in.

I have an issue that he makes a profit off his church, seems to have his eye on the monetary rewards, and yet puts nothing back into his community.

I have an issue with his grooming techniques and patronising attitude to others (dismissing Andrews views because 'he is young still').

I also have an issue with the core teachings of his 'New Ecstatics' of 'don't think, don't do anything, just get drunk'. It is self serving, lazy, and self indulgent imo.