[Tamtam]

I didnt start liking her and to be honest I did really get why others did. At the start I was a Dave supporter (but that has soured for me) but watching this all unfold I honestly feel for her. She has been latched upon by the biggest emotional vampires in that house (Keeva and JJ) and they have dragged her down to a place where she dosent even know herself or really how to handle it. I think it's sad. I think it's sadder that so many posters here seem so hard and condemning of her for actually having real emotions in reacting to stuff thats been done to her, when there are so many people faking it in there that deserve the hate so much more.

It's also pretty much boiling my blood that C4 always show her upset but never ever show WHY she is upset or explain the whole story. I think thats the main reason so many are against her to be honest... they just don't know what Keeva has been doing and think it's 100% a unprovoked jealous reaction, when in reality it just isnt. While the jealousy from Joise is very real (god forbid she has human emotions eh? Lets all hate her for that right?) it is only 50% of the issue in all this from what I see, but the other 50% isnt being told at all.

So, in defiance of BB's unfair representation, the herd mentality of the baying mob, and in support of real HMs showing real emotions, I openly declare my love and support for Josie!




(And I hate that JJ is pretending to not get why Keeva's underhand sly poking at Josie via looks and whatever wind Josie up, especially when he himself raged so much at Rachael for a lot lot less. You would think he would get it a lot more to be honest.)

[charmingmissc]

well said,

now duck..!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Couldn't agree more, apart from the fact that I liked Josie from when she first went in and continue to like her now.

It's starting to get ridiculous on here now with some of the stuff being said about both her and people supporting her, apparently we're all naive idiots not being able to see through some evil master plan of hers, well all I see is a slightly flawed young woman, (lets face it none of us are perfect and who knows how any of us would react in a situation like the BB house) who doesn't pretend to be something she's not, is very honest and open with her feelings, but who basically wants to have a fun time in there. Shoot her for not perhaps handling things in the best way at times, but she never says anything behind people's backs that she's not prepared to say to their face, which is more than can be said for some of them in there.

Caoimhe is like poison, drip drip drip all the time, latching onto JJ and Josie when Shabby left, now she's trying to drive them apart. I personally think Josie would be better off sticking with Corin and Andrew, everyone in the house loves her though and I'm sure they have a better idea of what she's like than we do at the end of the day. I hope she makes the final and wins. Josie

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

I didnt start liking her and to be honest I did really get why others did. At the start I was a Dave supporter (but that has soured for me) but watching this all unfold I honestly feel for her. She has been latched upon by the biggest emotional vampires in that house (Keeva and JJ) and they have dragged her down to a place where she dosent even know herself or really how to handle it. I think it's sad. I think it's sadder that so many posters here seem so hard and condemning of her for actually having real emotions in reacting to stuff thats been done to her, when there are so many people faking it in there that deserve the hate so much more.

It's also pretty much boiling my blood that C4 always show her upset but never ever show WHY she is upset or explain the whole story. I think thats the main reason so many are against her to be honest... they just don't know what Keeva has been doing and think it's 100% a unprovoked jealous reaction, when in reality it just isnt. While the jealousy from Joise is very real (god forbid she has human emotions eh? Lets all hate her for that right?) it is only 50% of the issue in all this from what I see, but the other 50% isnt being told at all.

So, in defiance of BB's unfair representation, the herd mentality of the baying mob, and in support of real HMs showing real emotions, I openly declare my love and support for Josie!




(And I hate that JJ is pretending to not get why Keeva's underhand sly poking at Josie via looks and whatever wind Josie up, especially when he himself raged so much at Rachael for a lot lot less. You would think he would get it a lot more to be honest.)

fgs -Josie is a grown woman responsible for her own actions - you can't just excuse her behaviour by blaming others and calling them emotional vampires - what about her being an emotional cripple? Yes - most of us get jealous at times, but not on public tv and about someone we have known 5 minutes who has made it perfectly clear, that they don't feel the same way!

Josie is not the naive little country girl you try to portray her as - after all she did go for the only good-looking guy in the house - shows how shallow she is! You don't punch above your weight (her words more or less) on public tv if you don't want to be hurt! She is either completely stupid - or simply playing a very clever game! She certainly is NOT a victim (but may well be playing one) - but others on the receiving end of her bitchy tongue might potentially be!

[charmingmissc]

just out of interest, who do you class as being "on his level" regarding looks ???

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

fgs -Josie is a grown woman responsible for her own actions - you can't just excuse her behaviour by blaming others and calling them emotional vampires - what about her being an emotional cripple?

We should hate people because they are not 100% emotionally strong? We should hate people, no matter the role others play in dragging them down, because they are going through a rough time? I don't think so, I think thats a very hard nosed and unfeeling way of looking at whats happened and also a way that simply ignores half of the facts in favour in favour of just sticking the knife in her as deeply as possible.

[MissKittyFantastico]

How do you know how you would react in that situation though? You call her an emotional cripple but how do you know that you wouldn't react in some of the same ways she has in an environment like that? None of us can know what it's like in there and how it might mess with your head, I think some people are being very judgmental and unfair tbh, she hasn't done anything wrong but get attached to someone who has actually given her VERY mixed signals the whole time they've been in there, fgs he was crying over her in the DR and wanting to leave at one point!

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

well said,

now duck..!

hehe don't worry, I wear a flame proof suit

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Kitty

How do you know how you would react in that situation though? You call her an emotional cripple but how do you know that you wouldn't react in some of the same ways she has in an environment like that? None of us can know what it's like in there and how it might mess with your head, I think some people are being very judgmental and unfair tbh, she hasn't done anything wrong but get attached to someone who has actually given her VERY mixed signals the whole time they've been in there, fgs he was crying over her in the DR and wanting to leave at one point!

I would have enough sense not to put myself up for a show like that! And I don't think JJ has given her mixed signals (and I am not a fan of JJ) - she has read into it what she wanted to! She fell for him because of his looks - and now whines because he doesn't feel the same way about her! The DR thing was an emotional attachment - not a physical one, she is trying to force him into fancying her - and he doesn't, she can't make him fancy her!

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I would have enough sense not to put myself up for a show like that! !

So, you actually admit you wouldnt go for BB because you think you arnt emotionally strong enough, but you hate Joise for not being emotionally strong enough... thats seems bizarre to me to be honest. I would have thought you would feel a little empathy.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I would have enough sense not to put myself up for a show like that! And I don't think JJ has given her mixed signals (and I am not a fan of JJ) - she has read into it what she wanted to! She fell for him because of his looks - and now whines because he doesn't feel the same way about her! the DR thing was an emotional attachment - not a physical one, she is trying to force him into fancying her - and he doesn't, she can't make him fancy her!

So now she's a fool for even going on the show? Come on now that's just silly! They've formed a very strong bond in there, how can you say that it's all purely physical from her side? Yes she said 'he looks fit in his football kit', she doesn't bang on and on about his looks all the time, they have a laugh, they've had some very deep conversations, and have been there for each other too, I don't believe she would hang about with someone purely based on how they look, otherwise she wouldnt be so close with Andrew would she? You're making her out to be some shallow, delusional fool, I'm sorry but if a guy cried in the DR and said he wanted to leave if I didn't talk to him again, I'd read something into that too, he's been toying with her emotions, either through denial or he's the one playing the very clever game, look at what he did to Rachael!

[poejoe]

all i can say is she needs to go and lie down and suck her thumb

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Kitty

So now she's a fool for even going on the show? Come on now that's just silly! They've formed a very strong bond in there, how can you say that it's all purely physical from her side? Yes she said 'he looks fit in his football kit', she doesn't bang on and on about his looks all the time, they have a laugh, they've had some very deep conversations, and have been there for each other too, I don't believe she would hang about with someone purely based on how they look, otherwise she wouldnt be so close with Andrew would she? You're making her out to be some shallow, delusional fool, I'm sorry but if a guy cried in the DR and said he wanted to leave if I didn't talk to him again, I'd read something into that too, he's been toying with her emotions, either through denial or he's the one playing the very clever game, look at what he did to Rachael!

I am sure Josie said that she fancied JJ from the first moment she saw him - which, of course, implies that she judged him on his looks! And she doesn't fancy Andrew, she just likes him as a friend (just as JJ does her) - I wonder how she would feel if Andrew started carrying on about her in the same way as she has carried on about JJ. Despite the fact that he is quite a bit younger than her - I think he will manage to try harder to control his emotions though!

I think she is making things very difficult for others in there because of her inability to control her emotions - and creating an uncomfortable atmosphere. How dare she try and tell JJ or Keeva or anyone else who they can and can't talk to - because it makes her feel insecure! She is spoiling their experience! It is all about her - she bangs on about her feelings for JJ constantly - and quite frankly - I have had enough!

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I am sure Josie said that she fancied JJ from the first moment she saw him... I have had enough!

You seem very bitter. I am sure you arnt, but they way that you post is very hard nosed.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

You seem very bitter. I am sure you arnt, but they way that you post is very hard nosed.

Bitter about what? I liked Josie at first - but her behaviour has changed my opinion of her! Her behaviour has been pretty awful - I don't like attention-seekers - especially when they pretend they are not! The fact is - she is being nasty to people because of her own insecurities, and she has no right to do that. If you think that is ok - that's fine - but I suspect if it were a hm you disliked you would have a different view!

I have had enough of her - she is an embarrassment - and her behaviour has become painful to watch. It is also incredibly boring. She isn't the only hm in there - and it is about time she remembered that!

[KERRYJ]

wombai you are banging your head against a wall this is a josie lovers area and haters like you are not welcome. Don't judge others to your standards. If you would not be prepared to go into the house than you can't villify others who do. Josie's only "crime" is to prove that she is human, so what if she has made a couple of knee jerk reactions in that house, we all do it but most of us can walk away. It's always been that way in the BB house, one minute you have best friends than you don't because the atmosphere is claustrophbic and the tennants are transient. Situations change so quick and so the HMs have to suit themselves to whatever is happening at the time.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

I didnt start liking her and to be honest I did really get why others did. At the start I was a Dave supporter (but that has soured for me) but watching this all unfold I honestly feel for her. She has been latched upon by the biggest emotional vampires in that house (Keeva and JJ) and they have dragged her down to a place where she dosent even know herself or really how to handle it. I think it's sad. I think it's sadder that so many posters here seem so hard and condemning of her for actually having real emotions in reacting to stuff thats been done to her, when there are so many people faking it in there that deserve the hate so much more.

It's also pretty much boiling my blood that C4 always show her upset but never ever show WHY she is upset or explain the whole story. I think thats the main reason so many are against her to be honest... they just don't know what Keeva has been doing and think it's 100% a unprovoked jealous reaction, when in reality it just isnt. While the jealousy from Joise is very real (god forbid she has human emotions eh? Lets all hate her for that right?) it is only 50% of the issue in all this from what I see, but the other 50% isnt being told at all.

So, in defiance of BB's unfair representation, the herd mentality of the baying mob, and in support of real HMs showing real emotions, I openly declare my love and support for Josie!




(And I hate that JJ is pretending to not get why Keeva's underhand sly poking at Josie via looks and whatever wind Josie up, especially when he himself raged so much at Rachael for a lot lot less. You would think he would get it a lot more to be honest.)

you gone the other way? interesting

most people love her from start to the end

others love her then gone off her lately

I think she a BIAAATCH and acting up to the cameras 24/7

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I am sure Josie said that she fancied JJ from the first moment she saw him - which, of course, implies that she judged him on his looks! And she doesn't fancy Andrew, she just likes him as a friend (just as JJ does her) - I wonder how she would feel if Andrew started carrying on about her in the same way as she has carried on about JJ. Despite the fact that he is quite a bit younger than her - I think he will manage to try harder to control his emotions though!

I think she is making things very difficult for others in there because of her inability to control her emotions - and creating an uncomfortable atmosphere. How dare she try and tell JJ or Keeva or anyone else who they can and can't talk to - because it makes her feel insecure! She is spoiling their experience! It is all about her - she bangs on about her feelings for JJ constantly - and quite frankly - I have had enough!

No, she didn't say that, but even if she did it would have been an initial liking of his looks, thats how most people judge others these days, should she be hung for finding a man attractive now? She's a single girl, and there aren't exactly a big choice of men in there this year lets face it! If she didn't like his personality and they didn't hit it off I really don't believe she would have hung around him, she doesn't seem to be that type of girl, though you may disagree of course and I'm sure you will based on her impression of her.

She didn't tell JJ or Caoimhe who they could or couldn't talk to, she's taken exception to Caoimhe knowing that she likes JJ and throwing herself all over him and being a smarmy cow, which she has! She's not spoiling anyone's experience, they all love her in the house, so I don't really see where you're getting that impression from tbh. I do agree she needs to move on from the JJ thing but I also think you're being a bit harsh, like I keep saying, none of us know how we would handle a situation like they're all in.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Tamtam

I didnt start liking her and to be honest I did really get why others did. At the start I was a Dave supporter (but that has soured for me) but watching this all unfold I honestly feel for her. She has been latched upon by the biggest emotional vampires in that house (Keeva and JJ) and they have dragged her down to a place where she dosent even know herself or really how to handle it. I think it's sad. I think it's sadder that so many posters here seem so hard and condemning of her for actually having real emotions in reacting to stuff thats been done to her, when there are so many people faking it in there that deserve the hate so much more.

It's also pretty much boiling my blood that C4 always show her upset but never ever show WHY she is upset or explain the whole story. I think thats the main reason so many are against her to be honest... they just don't know what Keeva has been doing and think it's 100% a unprovoked jealous reaction, when in reality it just isnt. While the jealousy from Joise is very real (god forbid she has human emotions eh? Lets all hate her for that right?) it is only 50% of the issue in all this from what I see, but the other 50% isnt being told at all.

So, in defiance of BB's unfair representation, the herd mentality of the baying mob, and in support of real HMs showing real emotions, I openly declare my love and support for Josie!




(And I hate that JJ is pretending to not get why Keeva's underhand sly poking at Josie via looks and whatever wind Josie up, especially when he himself raged so much at Rachael for a lot lot less. You would think he would get it a lot more to be honest.)

Totally agree, what a great post, only difference in my opinion is i've liked her since she walked up the stairs on launch night, & she still my favourite.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Josie is 2 tons of fun

she looks after er mukkers

feeds the pigs

and still has time to have the farm hand hang out the back of her before bed

what a gal

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Josie is 2 tons of fun

she looks after er mukkers

feeds the pigs

and still has time to have the farm hand hang out the back of her before bed

what a gal

feed pigs like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc0JztfhLZA

0:20

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

feed pigs like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc0JztfhLZA

0:20

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Kitty

No, she didn't say that, but even if she did it would have been an initial liking of his looks, thats how most people judge others these days, should she be hung for finding a man attractive now? She's a single girl, and there aren't exactly a big choice of men in there this year lets face it! If she didn't like his personality and they didn't hit it off I really don't believe she would have hung around him, she doesn't seem to be that type of girl, though you may disagree of course and I'm sure you will based on her impression of her.

She didn't tell JJ or Caoimhe who they could or couldn't talk to, she's taken exception to Caoimhe knowing that she likes JJ and throwing herself all over him and being a smarmy cow, which she has! She's not spoiling anyone's experience, they all love her in the house, so I don't really see where you're getting that impression from tbh. I do agree she needs to move on from the JJ thing but I also think you're being a bit harsh, like I keep saying, none of us know how we would handle a situation like they're all in.

Josie fans have accussed JJ of being shallow and superficical for judging Josie on her looks and not fancying her - but that works bothways because Josie clearly judges him on his looks! So she is every bit as shallow and superficial as they accuse him of being! Yes she continued to hang around with him because they get on - he likes her a lot - as a friend, but she won't accept that, she wants more! He has been honest about liking her as a friend only - but she acts like he doesn't mean it or she can change his mind - how arrogant is that!

No she hasn't said it, she doesn't need to - but she certainly puts the pressure on so that they feel very uncomfortable about doing so. On LF last night JJ and Keeva were clearly feeling very uncomfortable about the situation with Josie! She has made them feel very uncomfortable about even talking to each other! She has no right to make them feel that way. She has been jealous of Keeley, now Keeva - it is ridiculous! It is her insecurity and her problem - it is not just about her feelings! Others have feelings too!

[Tamtam]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

you gone the other way? interesting

most people love her from start to the end

others love her then gone off her lately

I think she a BIAAATCH and acting up to the cameras 24/7

Yes I have, for every reason in my OP.

And as for how you feel, yes, you have said that in just about every thread. I get it. We all get it. The world gets it. It would be great if you actually started to say something interesting and new though, it all gets very tedious and predictable.

[RosieRed xxx]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Bitter about what? I liked Josie at first - but her behaviour has changed my opinion of her! Her behaviour has been pretty awful - I don't like attention-seekers - especially when they pretend they are not! The fact is - she is being nasty to people because of her own insecurities, and she has no right to do that. If you think that is ok - that's fine - but I suspect if it were a hm you disliked you would have a different view!

I have had enough of her - she is an embarrassment - and her behaviour has become painful to watch. It is also incredibly boring. She isn't the only hm in there - and it is about time she remembered that!

You dont like attention seekers?????
Thats all the housemates on your hit list then..........and you watch because????????