[Showstopper]

Originally Posted by Rofl Copter

Well Mario didn't constantly bully Ben about not trying hard enough in tasks now did he?

well yes he did, and allot more on top of that

[Rofl Copter]

Originally Posted by Showstopper

well yes he did, and allot more on top of that

John James had an argument with ben a few weeks ago that went on for at least 2 hours.
Him doing that all the time and making such a big deal out of it caused Ben to go.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Rofl Copter

John James had an argument with ben a few weeks ago that went on for at least 2 hours.
Him doing that all the time and making such a big deal out of it caused Ben to go.

Ben went because people voted for him, simple.

[Rofl Copter]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Ben went because people voted for him, simple.

After he was evicted so many people said they voted for him because he was lazy and didn't try in tasks.
John James is one of the laziest people in there and i gaurantee you he will quit this task.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Rofl Copter

After he was evicted so many people said they voted for him because he was lazy and didn't try in tasks.
John James is one of the laziest people in there and i gaurantee you he will quit this task.

people don't stop liking a HM for being lazy, he just didn't have enough fans.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Ben went because people voted for him, simple.

i think at least 45% that voted ben out were the jjj fans.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

i think at least 45% that voted ben out were the jjj fans.

No, the people that voted Ben out were not Ben fans, some JJ fans no doubt also some Andrew and Dave fans. I'm quite sure some Ben fans were voting out JJ too. Bottom line is more people wanted Ben out for whatever reason and so he went. Personally I would have preferred to see Dave go.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

No, the people that voted Ben out were not Ben fans, some JJ fans no doubt also some Andrew and Dave fans. I'm quite sure some Ben fans were voting out JJ too. Bottom line is more people wanted Ben out for whatever reason and so he went. Personally I would have preferred to see Dave go.

i didnt say ben fans voted ben out and the andrew fans would have targeted john james not ben and daves 5 fans targeted ben,so i think at least 45% out of the 52% that voted him out were jjj fans.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

i didnt say ben fans voted ben out and the andrew fans would have targeted john james not ben and daves 5 fans targeted ben,so i think at least 45% out of the 52% that voted him out were jjj fans.

actually my post was a bit confusing sorry about that, what I meant was that the people who voted Ben out were people who don't like Ben, not necessarily all JJ fans. I am a JJ fan, unfortunately I can't vote as I'm in Ireland but If I could have I would have voted Dave out cos I quite liked Ben.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by Rofl Copter

John James had an argument with ben a few weeks ago that went on for at least 2 hours.
Him doing that all the time and making such a big deal out of it caused Ben to go.

Ben didn't get the boot because he didn't work at the tasks. Doubt many give a hoot about how hard hms work. Ben was a one trick pony and it got boring. Nothing to do with John's argument with him. Infact John's arguments with Ben helped him look like the victim and get your sympathy.

[Showstopper]

Originally Posted by Rofl Copter

John James had an argument with ben a few weeks ago that went on for at least 2 hours.
Him doing that all the time and making such a big deal out of it caused Ben to go.

Yes and Mario stared at Ben like a psycho trying to purposely make him uncomfortable

Don't make me laugh in terms of HM's causing Ben being evicted. Ben caused Ben to be evicted by making stupid comments like the one he made about Josie wearing tight clothes. As Davina said "I think thats why your stood here"

[Rofl Copter]

Originally Posted by Showstopper

Yes and Mario stared at Ben like a psycho trying to purposely make him uncomfortable

Don't make me laugh in terms of HM's causing Ben being evicted. Ben caused Ben to be evicted by making stupid comments like the one he made about Josie wearing tight clothes. As Davina said "I think thats why your stood here"

There are so many teenage girls out there who would have completely supported John James in that argument and after it they seen Ben as a villain.
John james fans would jump off a cliff if he told them to.

[BlueViolet]

The people who defend John James think he's fit and/or are fans of the showmance. There's really no excuse for his behavior. Trying to compare him to other HMs is not an excuse.

People on previous series have done a lot harder tasks with a lot less whinging.