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Originally Posted by Shiner

I don't know, not every HM has been up for there to be a comparison.

Yes, I know not every housemate has been up, I was talking about the housemates that have been up.

So I was asking if this is just the John James fans that are doing this?

it's just that his fans don't mind wasting all their money on buying... well nothing

Originally Posted by Shiner

But when you have fans claiming to have phoned 50 times or more then it is obvious that the amount of votes cast is hugely disproportionate to the actual amount of fans

But we don't know this for certain, just because some members are typing they have voted multiple times doesn't mean they have. There is always a possibility that people lie and exaggerate on forums.

Originally Posted by Shiner

Unfortunately there is no way to regulate with this system, which I'm sure Endemol is glad about, so cheating is rife and it is simply down to how much you are prepared to spend on their product rather than it being a true indication of public opinion.

Again we don't know how true this is and what overall affect it's having.

Originally Posted by Shiner

There was a big campaign from the JJ1 camp to get Rachel out (you may have noticed it ) which succeeded because these people don't have more important things to spend their money on. If I didn't have bills to pay and no money sense I might be tempted to spend a fortune on my favourite too.... if I had one.

Who are 'these' people you talk about?


I'm happy to believe what you think is going on with regards to cheating, (I'm not trying to catch you out) but how much and why this is still going on is questionable.

My initial question was, is this cheating down to just John James fans as I was led to believe that is what you were originally saying.