[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MissKittyFantastico

But then you would be a murderer, do you think you or your kids could live with that knowledge for the rest of your lives?

Like I said I can understand why a parent would feel that way, but actually taking another person's life, do you think that's the answer in the grander scheme of things?

also, the term "murderer" is quite subjective really. Do you consider a soldier to be a murderer? they kill people who may not be half as bad as a paedophile

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

also, the term "murderer" is quite subjective really. Do you consider a soldier to be a murderer? they kill people who may not be half as bad as a paedophile

I think the soldier analogy is a terrible one to use, this isn't a war situation and thus not applicable in any way.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think the soldier analogy is a terrible one to use, this isn't a war situation and thus not applicable in any way.

The reason I used it, is because they kill people but that is accepted, I was simply trying to explain that killing another person is not always considered to be murder. You may think it's a terrible comparison to make but I don't.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

The reason I used it, is because they kill people but that is accepted, I was simply trying to explain that killing another person is not always considered to be murder. You may think it's a terrible comparison to make but I don't.

But a soldier killing an insurgent is a different setting and different rules. Civilian laws aren't comparable to the regulations of beng a soldier.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

But a soldier killing an insurgent is a different setting and different rules. Civilian laws aren't comparable to the regulations of beng a soldier.

yes I know but I wasn't using it in a law or regulations type comparison, I was asked how I would feel about killing the person afterwards. Whether a soldier is permitted to kill someone or not, they still feel like every other civilian does.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

yes I know but I wasn't using it in a law or regulations type comparison, I was asked how I would feel about killing the person afterwards. Whether a soldier is permitted to kill someone or not, they still feel like every other civilian does.

They kill in a war, in combat, and have been trained to do it without emotion. Totally different. And quite a few of them suffer afterwards anyway.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by setanta

They kill in a war, in combat, and have been trained to do it without emotion. Totally different. And quite a few of them suffer afterwards anyway.

I understand that and I wasn't having a go at soldiers at all, I think everyone has picked up the point I was trying to make wrongly. The point I was trying to make was that, a soldier is able to kill a person and sleep at night (not all I know) and I'm sure I would too as I would feel equally or even more justified.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

yes I know but I wasn't using it in a law or regulations type comparison, I was asked how I would feel about killing the person afterwards. Whether a soldier is permitted to kill someone or not, they still feel like every other civilian does.

And a hell of a lot of them are never the same again after having taken someone's life, PTSD and things like that that stays with them for years afterwards. That's why I'm saying it's not such a cut and dried argument and why asked I question if you would be able to live with taking another person's life.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MissKittyFantastico

And a hell of a lot of them are never the same again after having taken someone's life, PTSD and things like that that stays with them for years afterwards. That's why I'm saying it's not such a cut and dried argument and why asked I question if you would be able to live with taking another person's life.

Ok well if they hurt my children then yes I think I would.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

also, the term "murderer" is quite subjective really. Do you consider a soldier to be a murderer? they kill people who may not be half as bad as a paedophile

That's a totally different thing Niamh!