[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

If you didn't like Katie Jack you wouldn't even care lets be honest

So you're now telling me I condone bullying?

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

Danyl had awful press. and was in the bottom 2 once (by 0.1%). He did amazing all series, and had probably worse press than Katie. He was actually liked.. So katie just sucks

He had nowhere near as much press as Katie.

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

jack ur opinion arent facts!
Me and the majority of the public thought cheryl picked the WRONG 3

Where did I say my opinions 'are facts'? Refer me to the post please. Thanks

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Jack_

So you're now telling me I condone bullying?

I just think it's a bit strange that you take offence to someone mocking Katies chin but think it's ok to laugh at jokes about child abuse, strange morals there you have!

[Jack_]

[QUOTE=Niamhxo;3902867]

Originally Posted by Jack_

So you're now telling me I condone bullying? [/qoute]


I just think it's a bit strange that you take offence to someone mocking Katies chin but think it's ok to laugh at jokes about child abuse, strange morals there you have!

Because there's one main difference between the two:

One is a joke. The other isn't. If I encountered someone seriously mocking someone who, for example, had lost a child to their face - then I would not condone that. But jokes are jokes - and not meant to be taken seriously. And I have no reason to believe that any of the insults thrown at Katie are 'just a joke'...

[ChristmasNeeve]

[QUOTE=Jack_;3902872]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Because there's one main difference between the two:

One is a joke. The other isn't. If I encountered someone seriously mocking someone who, for example, had lost a child to their face - then I would not condone that. But jokes are jokes - and not meant to be taken seriously. And I have no reason to believe that any of the insults thrown at Katie are 'just a joke'...

No no no hang on a second there, you make jokes about real cases on a forum just like people on this forum have mocked Katies chin as a joke, which YOU used as an example - forums. Don't be a hypocrite Jack.

[Merry Mockmas]

[QUOTE=Niamhxo;3902879]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No no no hang on a second there, you make jokes about real cases on a forum just like people on this forum have mocked Katies chin which YOU used as an example forums. Don't be a hypocrite Jack.

he was especially bad on the toddler strapped to a wall thread,but thats ok its only a joke,but mocking katies chin is evil.

[ChristmasNeeve]

[QUOTE=jedward fever;3902885]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

he was especially bad on the toddler strapped to a wall thread,but thats ok its only a joke,but mocking katies chin is evil.

yes far far worse it seems

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

ignore him! his opinion is always right! and he will never give in. His opinion is all that matters! Gamu,Keri,TreyC and Rebecca are **** and Katie is far better in every single way. as in only he thinks that the public DONT

Again - please refer me to the post where I specifically stated 'my opinion i always right'. Then get back to me. And at the end of the day, opinions are something that you yourself believe in - so surely I'm going to believe my own opinion is right? Just like you're going to believe that your own opinion is right? That is, afterall, the entire point of an opinion - so you're not making any sense.

And I never said Gamu and Rebecca were sh!t [Rebecca especially].

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

No no no hang on a second there, you make jokes about real cases on a forum just like people on this forum have mocked Katies chin as a joke, which YOU used as an example - forums. Don't be a hypocrite Jack.

Originally Posted by jedward fever

he was especially bad on the toddler strapped to a wall thread,but thats ok its only a joke,but mocking katies chin is evil.

Yes...but those posts I made were jokes. I, personally, don't believe the remarks made about Katie are jokes, because people genuinely dislike/hate her. Do I hate toddlers/victims of torture? No - infact I'm the opposite.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes...but those posts I made were jokes. I, personally, don't believe the remarks made about Katie are jokes, because people genuinely dislike/hate her. Do I hate toddlers/victims of torture? No - infact I'm the opposite.

People don't hate her Jack, we dont even know her, its all panto. And that case was a real case of abuse, It actually happened, people actually know that child involved so I cant see how you think that's ok to joke about but some reality show contestants chin is a no go area

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes...but those posts I made were jokes. I, personally, don't believe the remarks made about Katie are jokes, because people genuinely dislike/hate her. Do I hate toddlers/victims of torture? No - infact I'm the opposite.

so you think its ok to joke about abused children? but its not ok to joke about katie? come on jack you cant have it both ways.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I just think it's a bit strange that you take offence to someone mocking Katies chin but think it's ok to laugh at jokes about child abuse, strange morals there you have!

ignore him! his opinion is always right! and he will never give in. His opinion is all that matters! Gamu,Keri,TreyC and Rebecca are **** and Katie is far better in every single way. as in only he thinks that the public DONT

[MeMyselfAndI]

Ok then Jack...

Originally Posted by Jack_

they were easily the most diverse and interesting of the eight - that's something that not only makes a good category

Well they weren't the most diverse and intresting easily are they? As many people were watching Gamus performance, talking about her more (before live shows), liking her more (favourite to win). In no way was Katie more diverse or interesting by Gamu. Thats not "my" opinion, its the majority of the publics

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

Ok then Jack...



Well they weren't the most diverse and intresting easily are they? As many people were watching Gamus performance, talking about her more (before live shows), liking her more (favourite to win). In no way was Katie more diverse or interesting by Gamu. Thats not "my" opinion, its the majority of the publics

...and the 'majority of the publics' makes it the right one, does it? This is what Vicky was [or should've been] referring to - you thinking that because other people agree with you, your 'opinion is right'. LOL, it doesn't work like that. Similar to how you believe that because a song charts - it's good, or the artist is good, or has been created by a talented artist. Again - it doesn't work like that.

Katie is more interesting than Gamu. And if we're using your logic to determine whose 'opinion' is more 'right', then Katie has received far, far, far more press attention than Gamu - therefore she must be more interesting, right? Because people who aren't interesting don't receive press attention...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This is what Vicky was [or should've been] referring to - you thinking that because other people agree with you, your 'opinion is right'.

Erm no. That wasnt my point at all.

My point was some people who cannot accept that others have a different opinion. Who think that their opinion is all that matters/right and that everyone else is just a sheep who disagrees because they are force fed bollocks by the papers

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Erm no. That wasnt my point at all.

My point was some people who cannot accept that others have a different opinion. Who think that their opinion is all that matters/right and that everyone else is just a sheep who disagrees because they are force fed bollocks by the papers

Okay, fair enough - but don't you think that people that believe because other people agree with their opinion, their opinion is more 'right' are just as bad?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Okay, fair enough - but don't you think that people that believe because other people agree with their opinion, their opinion is more 'right' are just as bad?

Yup.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup.

At least we agree on something then

[Novo]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

Ok then Jack...



Well they weren't the most diverse and intresting easily are they? As many people were watching Gamus performance, talking about her more (before live shows), liking her more (favourite to win). In no way was Katie more diverse or interesting by Gamu. Thats not "my" opinion, its the majority of the publics

Gamu was a ****e sob story which everyone fall for.. 99% of people have moved on and it's about time you did as well