[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by rhino

yeah but that would be the classy thing to do she doesn't do classy

exactly and that is one thing money can't buy

[Tom]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Until Wagner did that I was considering voting for him.. but when he backed down he lost everything he gained IMO.. If he said it he should stand by it.

Most of Wagners fans are people who hate the show or don't take it seriously, if Wagner didn't back down and climb back up Cheryls arse I think he would have gone very very far but I can see him being out pretty soon now. He's backed down on the Cheryl thing so will lose support that way, whilst he's probably turned Cheryl's fans against him. I'll be shocked if he isn't in the bottom 2 this week or next week

[StGeorge]

Originally Posted by Nate

Horrible little *****, nows not the place to say stuff like that while he can't reply and when she knows the whole nation is watching. Completely unprofessional. Bitch.

This. Unprofessional and not what this show is supposed to be about.

Should everyone start to believe all they are seeing in the papers about her golden girls?

Pathetic hypocrite.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

Vendetta??? LOL!
WHy the hell would anyone have a vendetta? I have never mae a bad comment about Cheryl, but I just called it like I saw it. ANd its a combination of other events, where she showed that exact character trait. And this just put it over the edge, with the Simon thing, and the Wagner thing tonight.

She is a vindictive person. Thats all there is to it. Even if Wagner did say it, there was no need to bring it up onstage. But again, she is mean spirited, by nature.

People do have a vendetta against Cheryl, have you not read all of the posts on here about her when she does the slightest thing? And you're even displaying it yourself, when one of Simon's acts gets criticised first, he ALWAYS finds faults in that judges acts and compares it to the initial criticism and noone cares. Cheryl did that yet she gets flamed for it.

What are these other events you speak of?

And you're still buying that the Wagner thing wasn't at least semi-set up at least on Cheryl's part. If it was Dannii that it was said to, everyone would be saying how wrong Wagner is because the sun obviously shines out of Miss Minogues backside.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Tom

Most of Wagners fans are people who hate the show or don't take it seriously, if Wagner didn't back down and climb back up Cheryls arse I think he would have gone very very far but I can see him being out pretty soon now. He's backed down on the Cheryl thing so will lose support that way, whilst he's probably turned Cheryl's fans against him. I'll be shocked if he isn't in the bottom 2 this week or next week

I agree.. If he hadn't backed down, everyone who dislikes Cheryl would start voting for him and surely that'd be a really big fan base!! but as it is, he backed down so she won the argument really

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

Because I don't have an irrational vendetta against Cheryl like most people on here seem to.

You're very naive if you don't take what you saw at face value.

Why is it anyone who makes a negative post on cheryl immediately has a vendetta...its funny really. Nothing negative is ever allowed to be said about little miss perfect

Oh, I don't have a vendetta either...cheryl is not important enough in my life to warrant a vendetta...just kinda called it as I saw it. And seems pretty much the same as how most people in my facebook saw it too :/

[Zippy]

Cheryl>>>Wagner

Of course, her haters see it differently

Carry on with the nasty misogynistic name calling.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Why is it anyone who makes a negative post on cheryl immediately has a vendetta...its funny really. Nothing negative is ever allowed to be said about little miss perfect

Oh, I don't have a vendetta either...cheryl is not important enough in my life to warrant a vendetta...just kinda called it as I saw it. And seems pretty much the same as how most people in my facebook saw it too :/

its not a negative post, its a series of negative posts and double standards. I love how thats the only part of my post you criticise though because you know the rest is spot on.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Of course, her haters see it differently

Carry on with the nasty misogynistic name calling.

Another who thinks every negative post about cheryl must be from a rabid 'hater'

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

its not a negative post, its a series of negative posts and double standards. I love how thats the only part of my post you criticise though because you know the rest is spot on.

Erm, the only other bit of your post was about taking it at face value...I DID take it at face value. I called it how I saw it, and she was very wrong to bring that up on telly, when she could have done it at any time..

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Erm, the only other bit of your post was about taking it at face value...I DID take it at face value. I called it how I saw it, and she was very wrong to bring that up on telly, when she could have done it at any time..

Thinking of a diff post a bit after

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

she was very wrong to bring that up on telly, when she could have done it at any time..

I don't agree.. if he hurt her feelings she's got every right to defend herself on tele or wherever.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Another who thinks every negative post about cheryl must be from a rabid 'hater'

well you were never exactly a fan. And your thread is just a call to all haterz to come call her more nasty names. Like we havent heard them all a thousand times already.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I don't agree.. if he hurt her feelings she's got every right to defend herself on tele or wherever.

So we are now to believe everything we read in the rags then?

Oh goody...

[Merry Mockmas]

some cheryl fans cant except she was in the wrong.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zippy

well you were never exactly a fan. And your thread is just a call to all haterz to come call her more nasty names. Like we havent heard them all a thousand times already.

No, this thread is just voicing my opinion. obviously some people cant handle that

I never said i was a fan, am indifferent to her tbh...shes just...there

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

So we are now to believe everything we read in the rags then?

Oh goody...

I bet you would if it was the other way around

"I didn't know he was a journalist" followed by a pause and then Wagner crawling up her bum by justifying a quote on a number of sources, that no matter what context it is in it can't be misinterpreted in such a way.

[Legend killer]

If a was Wagner i would have told her straight to her face that she is a talentless chav

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tom

I bet you would if it was the other way around

No, I never believe what I read in the papers. I have a brain thanks

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

If a was Wagner i would have told her straight to her face that she is a talentless chav

lol... you're a legend, legend!! Must be difficult being on live TV though

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No, I never believe what I read in the papers. I have a brain thanks

same here,infact i dont read the papers as most of the time they talk garbidge.

[GiRTh]

She's got a truly toxic side that she just cant hide. She could have been more professional, pulled him on it after the show but she went for maximum effect and unfortunately it backfired.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

She's got a truly toxic side that she just cant hide. She could have been more professional, pulled him on it after the show but she went for maximum effect and unfortunately it backfired.

We'll see who its backfired on when Wagner loses his novelty appeal

as I said, tonight he alienated 2 fan bases he may have had. pro-Cheryl for obvious reasons, anti-Cheryl for backing down. Most people would be in the latter esp with most of his fans being people who hate the show, so I bet he's in the bottom 2 tomorrow

[nanaimo]

legend makes sense alot of the time in a senseless world , well you can take the girl out of the council estate but you can never take the council estate out of cheryl...hehe

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Any need for what she just did? isnt she the first to shout about 'don't believe everything you read in the papers'? Surely she knew there was a chance it was exaggerated/made up?

Went very very swiftly off miss perfect there...

I totally agree with you Vicky, but this is the real Cheryl anyway. Showing her true colours while in a bit of a mood, This is Cheryl Cole/Tweedy as she really is' a very spiteful individual.