[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

They could do a double but just send home the two with the lowest votes rather than have a sing off

I doubt they'd ever risk that, like I said. I seriously hope not too.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I doubt they'd ever risk that, like I said. I seriously hope not too.

How do you mean risk it? I mean there will only be one more show left after next results, they don't need anyone in for headlines now and realistically speaking none of the bottom 3 in next weeks show are going to win anyway.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

How do you mean risk it? I mean there will only be one more show left after next results, they don't need anyone in for headlines now and realistically speaking none of the bottom 3 in next weeks show are going to win anyway.

Because, let's say for some strange, and very unlikely reason, Matt or Rebecca ends up polling the second least votes - purely because their fans got complacent. I'm very sure they wouldn't want to lose one of them two, and neither would their fans. I just don't like the idea either - it puts a lot more pressure on fans to vote for their favourites and means the vote can swing any way possible. I just don't like the risk that's involved. It's hard to explain why it's a 'risk' but hopefully other people will understand what I mean...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Because, let's say for some strange, and very unlikely reason, Matt or Rebecca ends up polling the second least votes - purely because their fans got complacent. I'm very sure they wouldn't want to lose one of them two, and neither would their fans. I just don't like the idea either - it puts a lot more pressure on fans to vote for their favourites and means the vote can swing any way possible. I just don't like the risk that's involved. It's hard to explain why it's a 'risk' but hopefully other people will understand what I mean...

This is very very unlikely to happen in the semi final tbh :/

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This is very very unlikely to happen in the semi final tbh :/

Totally agree Vicky,

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Because, let's say for some strange, and very unlikely reason, Matt or Rebecca ends up polling the second least votes - purely because their fans got complacent. I'm very sure they wouldn't want to lose one of them two, and neither would their fans. I just don't like the idea either - it puts a lot more pressure on fans to vote for their favourites and means the vote can swing any way possible. I just don't like the risk that's involved. It's hard to explain why it's a 'risk' but hopefully other people will understand what I mean...

at this stage in the game, semi final and final left only, it should be completely down to the public imo If that means rebecca or matt went so be it. There is only 5 of them left and they all are talented in their own way, it should now be left to the public to decide.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This is very very unlikely to happen in the semi final tbh :/

Fair point I guess.

Originally Posted by joeysteele

If someone says to me there are no 2nd chances then that should mean no 2nd chances.
Since they have mucked about so much this year just to keep happy a certain mentor/judge, then its time those votes were taken away altogether from the judges now.
Ben Shephard did work on the show years ago but he was talking to Jeff Brazier who covers the X Factor for THIS MORNING and also is usually involved on Finals night.

The funny thing is Jack, but I talk to a lot of people who watch X Factor from fellow Students, to Friends and Family and also people around me where I am at the moment and the thing is they too would like to know why it hasn't gone to the public vote only yet, or why for the first time in 7 series the public have not been the sole deciders of who was in the semi-finals.

I think you may find more people would like the answers to that then you think.
Most people I talk to whether I know them or not, think there is loads fishy about the way X Factor has been done this year.

I think its time to have the format as, the acts perform,then the bottom 2 once known sing again,then their lines are then opened again for a while to allow the public to decide each week who goes.
That's what they do for the finals and then it would put an end to all suspicions and doubts as to the integrity of the show.

Yes, but on the other hand, no one I have spoken to has ever once raised concerns about 'the integrity' of the show or how it is being formatted. Never. Not once.

With seven acts left, there was just too many to go straight to a public vote. As I said before, it's usually five acts left before they go entirely to the public vote. So if there is a Judges Vote this week, then yes, maybe there is cause for concern. I personally feel the Double Eliminations should've been done at the beginning of the Live Shows - all of them, to get them out of the way. But that's not how it was done, and we just have to deal with that. The fact is - with seven acts left, they have never reverted to the public vote entirely in previous series.

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

at this stage in the game, semi final and final left only, it should be completely down to the public imo If that means rebecca or matt went so be it. There is only 5 of them left and they all are talented in their own way, it should now be left to the public to decide.

I agree from this week onwards it should be down to the public vote entirely, just on a single elimination only. Getting rid of two entirely on a public vote, is, to me, IMO, far too risky. It's never happened before and to be honest, I never want it to. I don't want four acts in the Final either, really, but if that's the way it has to be - then I'm fine with that. But yes, I do agree that it should be down to the public vote from this week onwards.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Fair point I guess.



Yes, but on the other hand, no one I have spoken to has ever once raised concerns about 'the integrity' of the show or how it is being formatted. Never. Not once.

With seven acts left, there was just too many to go straight to a public vote. As I said before, it's usually five acts left before they go entirely to the public vote. So if there is a Judges Vote this week, then yes, maybe there is cause for concern. I personally feel the Double Eliminations should've been done at the beginning of the Live Shows - all of them, to get them out of the way. But that's not how it was done, and we just have to deal with that. The fact is - with seven acts left, they have never reverted to the public vote entirely in previous series.



I agree from this week onwards it should be down to the public vote entirely, just on a single elimination only. Getting rid of two entirely on a public vote, is, to me, IMO, far too risky. It's never happened before and to be honest, I never want it to. I don't want four acts in the Final either, really, but if that's the way it has to be - then I'm fine with that. But yes, I do agree that it should be down to the public vote from this week onwards.

well, In my opinion they should have done all 4 doubles at the start anyway

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

well, In my opinion they should have done all 4 doubles at the start anyway

That's what I said

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

well, In my opinion they should have done all 4 doubles at the start anyway

Agree with this.

Get the doubles out of the way early on.