[Niamh.]

Like a few others have said, I do celebrate Christmas but I see it as a time to spend with family, put up lights and decorate the house, get time off work and eat and drink and be merry. I'm not religious at all and I don't pretend to be around Christmas either so I don't think I'm a hypocrite.

on a side note, Love the avatar kazanne, Christmas Gerard mmmmmmmmmm

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Mr. Tinsels

What on earth are you talking about? I'm not getting antsy. And I never assumed you were religious. In fact ... none of that post was directed at you. I was just commenting on religion in general.

My post seems to have gone way over your head. Yes ... it is hypocritical to celebrate something you don't believe in. That's why I don't celebrate the birth of Jesus.

I just celebrate the rest of Christmas. It is possible to have an atheist Christmas you know. Again I really, really don't see the complication.

I buy a Christmas tree, I share gifts, I get drunk, listen to Christmas music, and pass out at 4 in the morning.

I don't believe in god.

No problem.

Quote from your post=Do you really understand the religion you claim to follow or is it just a convorsation piece?
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That seems like a question aimed at me,so I assume your post Was aimed at me,why is it people cannot ask a question on here without people getting so defensive,blimey,I was just curious,no wonder people leave here in droves.

[Beastie]

I like Christmas more for the reason of a celebration and getting together with the family. Being festive and merry and getting a few days off work!

However I will try and go to the Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by NingleBells

Like a few others have said, I do celebrate Christmas but I see it as a time to spend with family, put up lights and decorate the house, get time off work and eat and drink and be merry. I'm not religious at all and I don't pretend to be around Christmas either so I don't think I'm a hypocrite.

on a side note, Love the avatar kazanne, Christmas Gerard mmmmmmmmmm

It wasn't really a serious question,I was just curious,I am shocked some people seem to think I have insulted them,lol,not at all,I was just wondering how many celebrated it for it's religious roots,kind of the same as people having their children christened when they don't believe,I know loads of them,and hey,get out of my Christmas Gerard he is filling MY stocking this year,LOL.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

It wasn't really a serious question,I was just curious,I am shocked some people seem to think I have insulted them,lol,not at all,I was just wondering how many celebrated it for it's religious roots,and hey,get out of my Christmas Gerard he is filling MY stocking this year,LOL.

we'll see about!!! Oh! Have you seen the ad on telly with him in??? Yummmmmmmm

[arista]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Do you find it strange the amount of people who say they don't believe in God,yet relish in a festival that celebrates the birth of Jesus,year after year?

I do not Celebrate Xmas.


It is for little Children only.




I have stock up with shopping
due to mums panic buying.




Life In The City.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by NingleBells

we'll see about!!! Oh! Have you seen the ad on telly with him in??? Yummmmmmmm

No I haven't,what is it for?,lol

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Do you find it strange the amount of people who say they don't believe in God,yet relish in a festival that celebrates the birth of Jesus,year after year?

I find it very strange,considering the meaning of the word Christmas is Christ Mass, A holy descriptive made for the reverence of Jesus.

Theological bit over, Whether people are religious or not is immaterial since there are many festivals over all cultures all around the Christmas period, as well as the fact it was also a pagan time for some celebration too,Yes,I accept it was hijacked by the Churches for the Christian Christmas

If you say you celebrate Christmas then you are indicating a connection to its Christian roots.I find it so odd when I hear people say in Stores,as to religious scenes on Chrismas cards 'what has that to do to with Christmas'.Unbelieveable.

I personally hold a Christian belief and celebrate Christmas in both ways, one in the religious aspect and then with my friends and family. I actually find it sad that the message of Christmas seems lost now,its far too commercialised.

[joeysteele]

Having said that, one overall thing the Christmas season does for the majority of people is bring them together more to be happy and be with one another so perhaps that should be the real meaning of Christmas,no heavy hang ups as to religion or anything else, just to come together and be happy,really enloy the season and look out for each other, friend, family or whoever.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

No I haven't,what is it for?,lol

here :

Youtube video

[Beso]

pile of sh!t

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by NingleBells

here :

Youtube video

OMG,THUcolour:

YOWZA

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

OMG,THUcolour:

YOWZA

thought you might like it!!

[arista]

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I find it very strange,considering the meaning of the word Christmas is Christ Mass, A holy descriptive made for the reverence of Jesus.

Theological bit over, Whether people are religious or not is immaterial since there are many festivals over all cultures all around the Christmas period, as well as the fact it was also a pagan time for some celebration too,Yes,I accept it was hijacked by the Churches for the Christian Christmas

If you say you celebrate Christmas then you are indicating a connection to its Christian roots.I find it so odd when I hear people say in Stores,as to religious scenes on Chrismas cards 'what has that to do to with Christmas'.Unbelieveable.

I personally hold a Christian belief and celebrate Christmas in both ways, one in the religious aspect and then with my friends and family. I actually find it sad that the message of Christmas seems lost now,its far too commercialised.

I'm pretty much like you Joey,I celebrate it,I love it,but we also remember the religious connection which can also be great fun,and it is great it seems to bring everyone together,but it can also be a very lonely sad time for some people,and how many people do you know have their kids christened when they do not believe in him?it's the same kind of thing,I just find it a bit 'odd' perhaps is a better word than hypocritical,lol,I did only ask out of interest .

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

That's just cruel

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I'm pretty much like you Joey,I celebrate it,I love it,but we also remember the religious connection which can also be great fun,and it is great it seems to bring everyone together,but it can also be a very lonely sad time for some people,and how many people do you know have their kids christened when they do not believe in him?it's the same kind of thing,I just find it a bit 'odd' perhaps is a better word than hypocritical,lol,I did only ask out of interest .

well, my kids are christened and my daughter has made her communion and the reason for it is that her school is a catholic school, I could still opt to not have her do religion or make her communion but she would be the only one in her class not doing it, I don't want to make her feel like an outsider which she would, also her dads family are pretty religious so I doubt they'd be pleased (not that I care but you know) I just wish that religion and schools were a separate thing because I personally feel like I have no choice but to have my kids taught religion.

lately, I have been thinking about it alot and I really regret not sending my kids to a multi denominational school as everytime I have to go to mass (funerals, weddings etc.) I sit there and think, is this really happening, all these grown people chanting like cult members (I don't wish to insult any religious person btw these are just my own personal opinions) but if I did send them to a multi denominational school, it would be awkward as there isn't one in my area so it would be a bit of a trek plus they wouldn't have friends in our area.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by NingleBells

well, my kids are christened and my daughter has made her communion and the reason for it is that her school is a catholic school, I could still opt to not have her do religion or make her communion but she would be the only one in her class not doing it, I don't want to make her feel like an outsider which she would, also her dads family are pretty religious so I doubt they'd be pleased (not that I care but you know) I just wish that religion and schools were a separate thing because I personally feel like I have no choice but to have my kids taught religion.

lately, I have been thinking about it alot and I really regret not sending my kids to a multi denominational school as everytime I have to go to mass (funerals, weddings etc.) I sit there and think, is this really happening, all these grown people chanting like cult members (I don't wish to insult any religious person btw these are just my own personal opinions) but if I did send them to a multi denominational school, it would be awkward as there isn't one in my area so it would be a bit of a trek plus they wouldn't have friends in our area.

Don't you think sometimes we do things to please the older members of the family?My nan would not let me in her house until I had been 'churched'(I didn't even know what she meant)I found out that after you give birth you go to church to be blessed(this must be so alien to some members)so I had to do this before I could go back in her house after I had my first child,lol,wonder if any other members have heard about being 'churched'.I agree with you about the schools btw.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Don't you think sometimes we do things to please the older members of the family?My nan would not let me in her house until I had been 'churched'(I didn't even know what she meant)I found out that after you give birth you go to church to be blessed(this must be so alien to some members)so I had to do this before I could go back in her house after I had my first child,lol,wonder if any other members have heard about being 'churched'.I agree with you about the schools btw.

lol, I haven't heard of that "churching" at all and yeah I definitely think pleasing older family members has alot to do with it as well. Coming from a country that is primarily Catholic it is also more difficult for people to bring their kids up as anything other than catholic without it being an issue for the kids (ie sending them to a catholic school but having them opting out of religion class plus communion, confirmation etc.) or sending them to a multi denominational school but then there aren't very many of them and it ends up being very awkward to do that

[arista]

Originally Posted by kazanne

That's just cruel

Its Bliss to me.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by NingleBells

lol, I haven't heard of that "churching" at all and yeah I definitely think pleasing older family members has alot to do with it as well. Coming from a country that is primarily Catholic it is also more difficult for people to bring their kids up as anything other than catholic without it being an issue for the kids (ie sending them to a catholic school but having them opting out of religion class plus communion, confirmation etc.) or sending them to a multi denominational school but then there aren't very many of them and it ends up being very awkward to do that

I can understand that, some of our family are Catholic,some C of E and some don't believe at all.so you can imagine what our get togethers are like,

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I can understand that, some of our family are Catholic,some C of E and some don't believe at all.so you can imagine what our get togethers are like,

Religions do interest me though eventhough I'm not a religious person at all. I think what they should do is have religion class in schools but study all types of religion so the kids can then choose to follow one or not. That's the problem with religion you see, most people don't choose to follow them, they're born into them depending on what part of the world they are etc. I don't see how you can be a true follower of a particular faith when there are so many of them without having explored all your options and decided on one that makes most sense to you

[arista]

There Is No God

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

There Is No God

Santa is real you miserable bas tard

[Mr XcX]

yes