[GiRTh]

Its not really about who won the sing off. Personally I think Mary won. Its about Dermot on Saturday night saying directly into camera 'You and only you will decide who goes thru to the final". Then we tune in on Sunday to find we've got a sing off and the judges will decide. The X-Factor website also implied there would be no sing off. What happened between Saturday night and Sunday night for them to suddenly decide to have a sing off?

Articles I have read as good as say that the producers decided late on Sunday as the show was going out. Who made this decision and why?

[nanaimo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its not really about who won the sing off. Personally I think Mary won. Its about Dermot on Saturday night saying directly into camera 'You and only you will decide who goes thru to the final". Then we tune in on Sunday to find we've got a sing off and the judges will decide. The X-Factor website also implied there would be no sing off. What happened between Saturday night and Sunday night for them to suddenly decide to have a sing off?

Articles I have read as good as say that the producers decided late on Sunday as the show was going out. Who made this decision and why?

Safety net for Cher, thats what happened

[Tom4784]

I'm just glad she went, I'd rather watch Cher then watch 2-3 more of the same performances from Mary. I don't really care if it's fixed or not, I don't vote and I'm not gonna care either way after next week.

[seaodw]

mary was on an irish radio station there about an hour ago and confirmed that the contestants where only told about the sing off on sunday morning. this just adds more to all these fix allegations

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

Any person with a good sense of whats better would know that Mary was far superior in the sing off, she was brillant and Cher was very weak in all fairness, think it should be called the fiX Factor, Simon should have done the descent thing and let it go to deadlock, why oh why was he looking at Cheryl, was he afraid she would punch him or not give him any later, pathetic, if Cher wins, i won't be watching next year.I hope Rebecca, Matt oer even one erection win over that horrible beast of a child.

no i want cher to beat one direction.

i agree with you about sending it to deadlock as it was both 2nd time in the bottom two,and it would have meant the public had the final say.

[Zippy]

Mary repeated an old performance in the sing off. Seen it already! I remember certain members moaning when Cher sang Stay in the sing off.

and considering that it was Mary in the bottom two just last week(not Cher) and that Mary was not very good on saturday either I really don't know why you assume Cher got least votes this week. More likely Mary did!

[Braden]

Was just on facebook and saw "The awkward moment when Mary scans the winner's CD at Tescos"
I'm dying.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Mary repeated an old performance in the sing off. Seen it already! I remember certain members moaning when Cher sang Stay in the sing off.

and considering that it was Mary in the bottom two just last week(not Cher) and that Mary was not very good on saturday either I really don't know why you assume Cher got least votes this week. More likely Mary did!

because mary was on rebound and cher hit the bottom two before mary did,so its quite easy to assume cher came bottom of the votes.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by jesus christ

because mary was on rebound and cher hit the bottom two before mary did,so its quite easy to assume cher came bottom of the votes.

yeah, very easy if it suits!

Cher's support is growing, Marys was sinking.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jesus christ

because mary was on rebound and cher hit the bottom two before mary did,so its quite easy to assume cher came bottom of the votes.

'assume'

Until the voting statistics come out nobody can say either way and it's just foolish to guess.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tinseltoes

I am not a Cher fan or a Cheryl fan but tbh it was Mary's time to go and it was a fair decision, she wasn't robbed at all.

Whilst I do agree that it was marys time to go..after all she would never win(but neither will cher without a bit more help from simon)...it was NOT a fair decision at all. Why should the judges be able to potentially overrule the public for who gets to the final?

Edit. Especially after dermot telling us on saturday that 'your votes and your votes alone will decide the finalists'

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Prezzie

'assume'

Until the voting statistics come out nobody can say either way and it's just foolish to guess.

i said assume?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Vixen

Edit. Especially after dermot telling us on saturday that 'your votes and your votes alone will decide the finalists'

did he?

well yeah thats a bit fishy then. Mind you, this series they seem to be making it up as they go along. Like with the whole Cheryl abstaining fiasco.

None of which is the contestants fault though.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vodka Drinka

Mary was much better, but of course what Princess Cheryl wants, Princess Cheryl gets. She wanted to sing a duet with her pet Bratz doll in the final, and if Princess Cheryl doesn't get her own way she stamps her feet at Uncle Simon.

And she might just lamp him one,lol,she already has form.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

More fix allegations.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/...5875-22764434/

Yes But it is Legit.

Simon's choice is not under pathetic bitter mirrot dead paper, control.



Feel The Force.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by kazanne

And she might just lamp him one,lol,she already has form.

Please learn to put a space after your commas.

[robb]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

Any person with a good sense of whats better would know that Mary was far superior in the sing off, she was brillant and Cher was very weak in all fairness, think it should be called the fiX Factor, Simon should have done the descent thing and let it go to deadlock, why oh why was he looking at Cheryl, was he afraid she would punch him or not give him any later, pathetic, if Cher wins, i won't be watching next year.I hope Rebecca, Matt oer even one erection win over that horrible beast of a child.

Sounds like your a member of the ABC (Anyone But Cher) Club!!!

Trouble is, Mary didn't turn the tears on as well as Cher. Same sort of thing happened to Gamu, Treyc, Paige, etc etc etc...........

[robb]

Originally Posted by Vixen

Whilst I do agree that it was marys time to go..after all she would never win(but neither will cher without a bit more help from simon)...it was NOT a fair decision at all. Why should the judges be able to potentially overrule the public for who gets to the final?

Edit. Especially after dermot telling us on saturday that 'your votes and your votes alone will decide the finalists'

Yes, Dermot......what a ******* joke that was.

I'm presuming Simon will employ snipers this week to take out Matt and Rebecca, just to make sure that One Dimension and Cher finish 1 and 2

[ElProximo]

To get a wee bit serious now..

..favourites or not there is, possibly, a 'confidence trick' happening here. Viewers are asked to pick up the phone and vote to get their favourite through and may be misled by that.
IF they really are to be 'completely transparent' as Dermot suggests then the advice to the viewers ought to clarify that you have to vote you fave - at least - the third last place.
(how can we phrase that better?)
Explain that you (the viewer) cannot necessarily vote your fave to go on. That they have to be voted 'past' 2 others.

The obvious problem is that x-million dump cash on X-Factor to get 'Mary' (or whoever) well ahead,
but,
see their 'investment' canceled-out.

Now this may be some 'short-term gain' for X-Factor when they see big-money Mary can make more money on tour or get her started on the Christmas Single,
versus,
the soda pop princess can make them more cash for a few weeks.
OK.
Having said that, they ought not be too surprised when, next season, there is a dramatic drop in phone voting.
(if there is?).

[keithafc]

The show is utter horse sh*t anyway. Full of crap singers. None of them are talented.

Wagner was the only interesting one in the show.

[robb]

I see Cowell is saying that when they have been down to the last 5 before, it has always been a sing-off. Has it? Didn't Ruth Lorenzo finish fifth (Vickers came fourth a week later, remember?). Ruth was booted out without a sing off if I remember right, Mr. Cowell.......

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

I am irish and i voted for Rebecca and have friends here that vote for matt, i have friends in England that love mary and vote for her and irish teenages here love one direction and cher, so this statement is pure hogwash.

yeah this, as an Irish person Matt is my favourite, no one I know here voted for Mary, they all either like Matt or Rebecca.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by robb

I see Cowell is saying that when they have been down to the last 5 before, it has always been a sing-off. Has it? Didn't Ruth Lorenzo finish fifth (Vickers came fourth a week later, remember?). Ruth was booted out without a sing off if I remember right, Mr. Cowell.......

Mr Cowell has developed a very selective memory in this X Factor series, that selective memory does not remove the fact that certaianly this weekend by the X Factor website and Dermot himself no one one voting believed there would be a sing off.

As to him saying Mary and the acts knew there'd be a isng off on the monday that is utter nonsense, Mary said they were only told on the Sunday,then backtracked to Saturday very unconvincingly.

He is literally taking the public for fools this year and ALL he ever had to do was sit down and explain to the viewers on either X Factor or the Xtra Factor any changes to the format this year, accommodating just one more act in the final should not need to have led to all this confuaion, anger and misleading of the public, no way.