[fruit_cake]

so gay men get turned on by seeing gay things, but straight men get turned on by the 'shock' of seeing gay images??

Something doesn't sound right to me amongst that

[Angus]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

so gay men get turned on by seeing gay things, but straight men get turned on by the 'shock' of seeing gay images??

Something doesn't sound right to me amongst that

Aren't they back to where they started - ie if all men's nether regions react to ANY porn (for whatever reason), how do they know who's gay and who's not?

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

so gay men get turned on by seeing gay things, but straight men get turned on by the 'shock' of seeing gay images??

Something doesn't sound right to me amongst that

Right, it seems something is wrong because there IS something wrong with your 'conclusion'.

Let me explain this again:
When people are surprised, frightened, 'shocked' at something the body has (at least) a miniature panic response. This is sometimes called 'fight or flight' response.
ONE of the instant physiological responses is for blood to get pushed (very suddenly) into the limbs.
Why is that?
Well suppose there was some actual physical threat then the arms have punching power and the legs have running power!
OK.
Now you may not know this but the penis is really a sort of 'balloon'. It is not a 'bone'. It is a balloon that fills with blood.
OK.
During this mini 'panic response' the surprised, frightened male has this sudden 'blood rush' to extremities,
and,
like it or not. Having NOTHING to do with sexual arousal, but purely as a consequence of 'hydraulics' or 'automatic blood pressure' the penis will get a squeeze of blood pushed into it.
It is NOT 'getting an erection'. It is a 'side-effect' of blood rushing to limbs, sphincter tightening and 'panic' heart rate and blood dispersal.

In fact, I worked in a prison where this 'penis ring' device has been used on sex offenders,
and,
they recognized this long ago and the analysts were learning to take this into consideration and interpret results by taking this into consideration.

Keep in mind - this sudden blood spurt is NOT a whole lot but these stupid devices measure (and this is the older one I know of) even less than 1%.
I heard the 'panic response' can account for something like a 12% increase which is relatively unnoticeable.

and yes I find this **** creepy and just more examples of creepy Orwellian nonsense.

And sorry but I don't think claiming homosexual persecution should get anyone anywhere,
and,
ESPECIALLY considering how many very hard working legal immigrants, spouses and legitimate students are fleeced, put through hell, families separated, spouses kept apart for sometimes YEARS by immigration who are not Muslim terrorists or African criminals.

Just like I mentioned about the Gamu case - these people HURT REAL IMMIGRANTS who are punished for taking the legal legitimate process.

but anyone can show up, claim to have homosexual sex and get housing, money and all kinds of good things.
Oh and then bomb a shopping center as part of their 'Taquiya' bull****.

But make sure that Polish mechanic has to ****ing wait 2 years to see his wife again because he made the mistake of being honest, paying fees and waiting in the queue for his turn.

(btw.. i see what the Czechs are trying to do here (good for them in principle) but its creepy as hell).

[fruit_cake]

oh I see, it makes more sense now. Supposed straight men don't get erections but do get a 'blood spurt' to the penis upon viewing gay men together?

then..If the device is sensitive to as little as 1% difference it would show a positive reaction, even if the subject were not 'turned on' so to speak.

It certainly sounds a very strange way of deciding who gets entry into a country as a asylum seeker. I wonder what tests they would do on a supposedly homosexual woman? You can't stick a ring around it can you.. I suspect if you could you'd be able to see a similar results distribution.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

oh I see, it makes more sense now. Supposed straight men don't get erections but do get a 'blood spurt' to the penis upon viewing gay men together?

It's really any male who sees something suddenly frightening, repulsive, surprising.
Keep in mind that the very idea of two men kissing or more is very often so disgusting to so many people that they even feel the need to vomit.

then..If the device is sensitive to as little as 1% difference it would show a positive reaction, even if the subject were not 'turned on' so to speak.

I've been told this non-sexual physiological reaction can spike something like 12%. Im not sure what the average is though.

I wonder what tests they would do on a supposedly homosexual woman? You can't stick a ring around it can you.. I suspect if you could you'd be able to see a similar results distribution.[/QUOTE]

I don't know about this. I know they do have a device to measure some kind of sexual response in women.
It is (you could imagine) a sort of thin straw-sized tube with a wire coming out.
As far as I can gather it tests heat (blood flow) but Im not sure if they would have the same 'panic reaction' flush as men?

[letmein]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

It's really any male who sees something suddenly frightening, repulsive, surprising.
Keep in mind that the very idea of two men kissing or more is very often so disgusting to so many people that they even feel the need to vomit.

What??!

Give us a call when you get back to Earth.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

It certainly sounds a very strange way of deciding who gets entry into a country as a asylum seeker. I wonder what tests they would do on a supposedly homosexual woman? You can't stick a ring around it can you.. I suspect if you could you'd be able to see a similar results distribution.

As EP states women's sexual responses can also be assessed electronically, measuring blood flow in various areas - internally and externally in the vagina and on the clitorus.

Though, I dont really think the occasion occurs where they get Lesbian Muslim women seeking asylum. After all the countries where male homosexual muslims are persecuted dont really afford women basic rights let alone the right to decide on an individual sexual preference.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Shasown

As EP states women's sexual responses can also be assessed electronically, measuring blood flow in various areas - internally and externally in the vagina and on the clitorus.

Though, I dont really think the occasion occurs where they get Lesbian Muslim women seeking asylum. After all the countries where male homosexual muslims are persecuted dont really afford women basic rights let alone the right to decide on an individual sexual preference.

as far as I'm aware, you don't 'decide' on your sexual preference based on rights.. you're born with it Shasown

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by christmas_cake

as far as I'm aware, you don't 'decide' on your sexual preference based on rights.. you're born with it Shasown

Even in more liberal countries there are some who will argue that point with you.

In a lot of countries you are free to follow whatever lifestyles suit you. If you are gay you can decide to live an openly gay life, or you can hide the fact you are and remain in the closet, that is your decision. In other countries you dont have that little luxury. In one or two(in fact a few more than that) they execute people for homosexuality.

Thats why some people seek asylum based on their sexual preference.

[letmein]

These people are pervs!