[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Anyone can SEE she had a good voice...!!! PMSL. okay... explain how anyone can SEE she had a good VOICE!!

Omg you're so clever, you picked up on the insignificant detail that you cant see a voice and got all condascending about it while ignoring the rest of the post, you're amazing

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Locke.

How long have you had that picture of Cher as your desktop background Pyramid?

Oooooh... that's a pretty poor attempt at being funny. You need to work on that quite a bit I think!

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

And, doing those gigs shows that she cares. Jedward were doing those kind of gigs last year, even Olly too and they've both done better than the winner from last year plus it's took Stacey a year to capitalise on her 3rd place via I'm A Celeb.

She cares because she is a wannabee.... All I'm doing is putting up a thread, with a link that I found amusing. There's the answer to your '...and???'

Originally Posted by MTVN

Omg you're so clever, you picked up on the insignificant detail that you cant see a voice and got all condascending about it while ignoring the rest of the post, you're amazing

Hey, don't get all defensive and pissed off because you were unable to articulate what you meant - funny how some of you on here have a sense of humour when it suits you when you're poking fun at others but you lose that same sense of humour when it's fired right back at you. I'm glad you find me amazing, though I really have to insist that you don't go down on bended knee and worship. There' really no need although the sentiment was nice.

As for the question you asked: you'd be better asking the reporter who supplied the article: if you actually took the time to read it, you will find that the reporter was doing a fair amount of mud slinging in the article. So if you want to know what attracted the critisism of Cher in that article- the article gives you quite a few clues.

[bbfan1991]

^ ALL the X-Factor lot are wannabees, just because Matt won this years show and Rebecca finished second doesn't make them any different to the rest.

[Locke.]

Rebecca is also scheduled to do plenty of club appearances aswell btw

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Hey, don't get all defensive and pissed off because you were unable to articulate what you meant - funny how some of you on here have a sense of humour when it suits you when you're poking fun at others but you lose that same sense of humour when it's fired right back at you. I'm glad you find me amazing, though I really have to insist that you don't go down on bended knee and worship. There' really no need although the sentiment was nice.

As for the question you asked: you'd be better asking the reporter who supplied the article: if you actually took the time to read it, you will find that the reporter was doing a fair amount of mud slinging in the article. So if you want to know what attracted the critisism of Cher in that article- the article gives you quite a few clues.

I think my reply was pretty appropiate considering the nature of your response. The "see" really was entirely irrelevant to the post yet you thought you'd try and use it to post a condascending respone while completely missing the point of what I said. Besides we did see her on tv every week and it was from seeing her that we can make a judgement on her voice

I did reas the article and it was what I expected from the Daily Mail, it was a load of biased crap wholly influenced by his unjustified hatred of Cher. And as always the readers lap it up

[bbfan1991]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Rebecca is also scheduled to do plenty of club appearances aswell btw

It's good that they perfrorm at places to meet fans, plus it brings publicity to the venue it is taking part of. Even people like Alexandra Burke still do PA's now..

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by bbfan1991

^ ALL the X-Factor lot are wannabees, just because Matt won this years show and Rebecca finished second doesn't make them any different to the rest.

Now I don't believe I stated anything to suggest that Cher was the only wannabee ..... of course every single person who even tries out for X Factor is a wannabee. Matt, Leona and every other person who spends hours queuing up way back at audition process.

You along with Locke, MTVN etc, might want to read the article and some of the comments that have been posted - several of which have been in regards to will.i.am having to tweet to raise interest in a song he's knocked up ....with someone he thinks is so special, that he can't even spell Cher's name correctly.

so.... while you're all too busy looking to fault me because I don't like the girl or the noise she makes - it might be a good shout to offer up some comments that pick up on what was posted - along with the link.

Or is it just a wee bit too hard to swallow the possibility that will.i.am in fact, doesn't think enough of Cher to even get her name right?

[Locke.]

I don't need to read the article I was there. It was a gig that she is signed up to perform on due to her contract with X Factor, there were a few hundred people there, almost all of them chating "We Love Cher" when they got told she was backstage, a lot of people wearing "Cher Lloyd" hoodies, and a group of teenage girls had "Cher" written across their foreheads. There is nothing else to say about it really, she came, performed to her fans, done a good job, then got slated by the papers because they have nothing better to print.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think my reply was pretty appropiate considering the nature of your response. The "see" really was entirely irrelevant to the post yet you thought you'd try and use it to post a condascending respone while completely missing the point of what I said. Besides we did see her on tv every week and it was from seeing her that we can make a judgement on her voice

I did reas the article and it was what I expected from the Daily Mail, it was a load of biased crap wholly influenced by his unjustified hatred of Cher. And as always the readers lap it up

Like I said, quite a few of you have a sense of humour when it suits you having a pop at others, but that dies away when it's humour directed at yourselves. And I did in fact answer your question in my last reply to you.

So which newspaper would something have to appear in before you would regard it as unbiased? Which source out there would you take what was written about Cher or anyone else for that matter, as being a wholly non prejudiced viewpoint?

Disliking a person does not equate to hating. I'm never quite sure where or why some of you are able to correlate the two words - how can a person hate someone they have never met? People can, like you, form an opinion - it doesn't have to match yours - nor does the fact that it doesn't match your opinion, make them a 'hater'.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Locke.

I don't need to read the article I was there. It was a gig that she is signed up to perform on due to her contract with X Factor, there were a few hundred people there, almost all of them chating "We Love Cher" when they got told she was backstage, a lot of people wearing "Cher Lloyd" hoodies, and a group of teenage girls had "Cher" written across their foreheads. There is nothing else to say about it really, she came, performed to her fans, done a good job, then got slated by the papers because they have nothing better to print.

Here lies the reason for not assuming what is written. The article is not about Cher alone. It's actually about several people -your psychic ability appears to have let you down a little.

Good that you enjoyed -but that doesn't detract from the fact that not everyone shares your opinion. As I said, the article discussed various people and had various things to say about Cher (not all critical - some yes, but not all).

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Here lies the reason for not assuming what is written. The article is not about Cher alone. It's actually about several people -your psychic ability appears to have let you down a little.

Good that you enjoyed -but that doesn't detract from the fact that not everyone shares your opinion. As I said, the article discussed various people and had various things to say about Cher (not all critical - some yes, but not all).

Your thread is about Cher. Your posts are about Cher. I'm replying to you, not the Daily Mail.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Like I said, quite a few of you have a sense of humour when it suits you having a pop at others, but that dies away when it's humour directed at yourselves. And I did in fact answer your question in my last reply to you.

So which newspaper would something have to appear in before you would regard it as unbiased? Which source out there would you take what was written about Cher or anyone else for that matter, as being a wholly non prejudiced viewpoint?

Disliking a person does not equate to hating. I'm never quite sure where or why some of you are able to correlate the two words - how can a person hate someone they have never met? People can, like you, form an opinion - it doesn't have to match yours - nor does the fact that it doesn't match your opinion, make them a 'hater'.

Well I'm no reader of OK, but look how they reported it: http://www.ok.co.uk/posts/view/30395...nd-Wagner-take

HERE'S an X Factor 2010 pair we didn't think we'd see together - Cher Lloyd and Wagner!

But X Factor 2010's controversial stars Cher Lloyd and Wagner came together as they both performed at a venue in Birkenhead last night.

With Matt Cardle and Rebecca Ferguson entertaining the crowds at Twickenham and One Direction heading up to Glasgow for their gig, mini Cheryl Cole and Brazilian Wagner hit Pacific Road Arts Centre in The Wirrall.

Cher looked cool in black harem pants, her trademark Doc Martins, a printed tee and a denim jacket as she bopped up and down on stage.

Meanwhile Wagner, who was booed off the show, played to the crowd on a pair of bongo drums as he shook his hips to the music.

All the pair need is to add Katie Waissel to the mix and we reckon that would be a truly bizarre evening...

They just reported what happened, instead of getting caught up on trying to find anything, no matter how minor a detail, to criticise Cher like the Daily Mail did, and as you also did

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Had to laugh at this in the DM today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...irkenhead.html



Laughed even more when I read this part:-



So much he thinks of Cher... that he can't even spell her name correctly when posting to try to raise interest - even when he has this to guide him ‘@CherLloyd '

Originally Posted by Locke.

Your thread is about Cher. Your posts are about Cher. I'm replying to you, not the Daily Mail.

The thread is about an article in the Daily Mail. One of which subjects happens to be Cher, along with will.i.am, a person who I also referred to in my OP..

since you have either selective memory or selective vision, I've copied my OP here for you - whereby I also make mention of will.i.am and how much he thinks of her and the song they did together, that he couldn't even spell her name correctly.

I'm pleased to show that you are wrong Locke: the thread is NOT about Cher all on her ownsome.

Seeing as you didn't even read the article, it negates anything you have to say really - as you said, you didn't read it - so therefore, you do not even know what the article relates to - and therefore, any comment you would make here, really is erroneous.

[Locke.]

I read the article on The Sun, and from a quick look at the Daily Mail article it is 90% the same thing.

Anyway, you've already been proven to be stupid about 20 times in this thread so I'll call it a day. I've got better things to do than dicuss this with you.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well I'm no reader of OK, but look how they reported it: http://www.ok.co.uk/posts/view/30395...nd-Wagner-take

HERE'S an X Factor 2010 pair we didn't think we'd see together - Cher Lloyd and Wagner!

But X Factor 2010's controversial stars Cher Lloyd and Wagner came together as they both performed at a venue in Birkenhead last night.

With Matt Cardle and Rebecca Ferguson entertaining the crowds at Twickenham and One Direction heading up to Glasgow for their gig, mini Cheryl Cole and Brazilian Wagner hit Pacific Road Arts Centre in The Wirrall.

Cher looked cool in black harem pants, her trademark Doc Martins, a printed tee and a denim jacket as she bopped up and down on stage.

Meanwhile Wagner, who was booed off the show, played to the crowd on a pair of bongo drums as he shook his hips to the music.

All the pair need is to add Katie Waissel to the mix and we reckon that would be a truly bizarre evening...

They just reported what happened, instead of getting caught up on trying to find anything, no matter how minor a detail, to criticise Cher like the Daily Mail did, and as you also did

OK Mag. I've read what you copied above, and it was what I expected from OK. It was a load of biased crap wholly influenced by his unjustified hatred of Wagner. And as always the readers lap it up.

There. Feel better?

One person's opinion doesn't dictate what everyone should feel. I happen to agree with what was written in the DM. You don't.

You happen to agree with what was written by OK Mag. I don't.

Even OK Mag refers to Cher as Mini Cheryl Cole rather than referring to her by her own name, her own right as Cher Lloyd - they're taking the piss as well -or did you miss that bit.?

I'm quite at liberty to criticise. Just as you are to stick up for her.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Locke.

I read the article on The Sun, and from a quick look at the Daily Mail article it is 90% the same thing.

Anyway, you've already been proven to be stupid about 20 times in this thread so I'll call it a day. I've got better things to do than dicuss this with you.

There's one person looking pretty dim Locke, but it isn't me.

Sun says 90% of the same thing then eh? Funny... I never had thought that bored middle aged women down (as you referred to Daily Mail readers as, in a rather pathetic attempt at insulting me) - as being a typical Sun reader. Maybe they aren't, maybe more of the UK public have the same opinion of Cher Lloyd - regardless of what age or sex bracket they fall into.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

OK Mag. I've read what you copied above, and it was what I expected from OK. It was a load of biased crap wholly influenced by his unjustified hatred of Wagner. And as always the readers lap it up.

There. Feel better?

One person's opinion doesn't dictate what everyone should feel. I happen to agree with what was written in the DM. You don't.

You happen to agree with what was written by OK Mag. I don't.

Even OK Mag refers to Cher as Mini Cheryl Cole rather than referring to her by her own name, her own right as Cher Lloyd - they're taking the piss as well -or did you miss that bit.?

I'm quite at liberty to criticise. Just as you are to stick up for her.

What on Earth are you talking about, there's no criticism of Wagner whatsoever, it is by and large a factual account of what took place, something the Daily Mail have never been capable of, not least when it comes to the X Factor. Cher is a often referred to as Mini Cheryl Cole, it isnt an insult

Oh, and dont play the "opinion" card, you made a thread trying to mock Cher and laugh at her expense, and her fans defended her, what do you expect.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

What on Earth are you talking about, there's no criticism of Wagner whatsoever, it is by and large a factual account of what took place, something the Daily Mail have never been capable of, not least when it comes to the X Factor. Cher is a often referred to as Mini Cheryl Cole, it isnt an insult

Oh, and dont play the "opinion" card, you made a thread trying to mock Cher and laugh at her expense, and her fans defended her, what do you expect.

it's called a play on words....and on what you said earlier. My my, your sense of humour really has depleted.

I don't particularly feel any media source that deals with reporting on celebs as being truthful or honest - they are more interested in selling copies: nothing more, nothing less. It's a bonus if there is an element of truth in anything cheap tabloids and tacky celeb mags publish.

I'll mock Cher all I want MTVN - I don't have to play any card..... If it's my opinion that she is worth mocking, I'll do that, without your permission.

I was also knocking (and finding it particularly amusing) that will.i.am can't even spell her name correctly - doesn't say much for his 'big' interest in her. In case you missed the blindingly obvious: that is me criticising HIM....not her - him. It says nothing for him.

Somehow: as much as young Cher loves Cheryl Cole, I suspect that she would want to be known as Cher Lloyd, not Mini Me.

I'd have thought her fans would want her to be recognised as Cher Lloyd, rather than Mini Me - but hey: if you want to follow someone who tries to look like one person, and tries to put on a stage act and rapping like she's part of another culture, good for you. Personally, I prefer someone who is comfortable with themselves: not someone who is trying to look and act like others.

[Jordan.]

A typo, how hilarious.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

The comments under the article are brilliant! I think out of 66 comments left, only two were giving Cher any form of back up.

Now.....why doesn't that surprise me!

Meh, it doesn't suprise me.

The readers of The Daily Fail are out of touch, hateful, *****wits.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

A typo, how hilarious.

I know, sidesplitting

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

A typo, how hilarious.

Ah...another constructive and quality post from Jordan.

Originally Posted by MrWong

Meh, it doesn't suprise me.

The readers of The Daily Fail are out of touch, hateful, *****wits.

That will be everyone who read the article on this thread then eh!!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I know, sidesplitting

Didn't stop you posting though did it..... Still managed to have a little nibble along the way.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

it's called a play on words....and on what you said earlier. My my, your sense of humour really has depleted.

I don't particularly feel any media source that deals with reporting on celebs as being truthful or honest - they are more interested in selling copies: nothing more, nothing less. It's a bonus if there is an element of truth in anything cheap tabloids and tacky celeb mags publish.

I'll mock Cher all I want MTVN - I don't have to play any card..... If it's my opinion that she is worth mocking, I'll do that, without your permission.

I was also knocking (and finding it particularly amusing) that will.i.am can't even spell her name correctly - doesn't say much for his 'big' interest in her. In case you missed the blindingly obvious: that is me criticising HIM....not her - him. It says nothing for him.

Somehow: as much as young Cher loves Cheryl Cole, I suspect that she would want to be known as Cher Lloyd, not Mini Me.

I'd have thought her fans would want her to be recognised as Cher Lloyd, rather than Mini Me - but hey: if you want to follow someone who tries to look like one person, and tries to put on a stage act and rapping like she's part of another culture, good for you. Personally, I prefer someone who is comfortable with themselves: not someone who is trying to look and act like others.

It has to make sense for it to work though, and that didnt because the OK article said nothing about Wagner

And wow, Will.I.Am made a typo. Look at thread title, you capitalised the second L in "Lloyd" OMG ROFL

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Ah...another constructive and quality post from Jordan.

Just stating what the majority of people were probably thinking.

If you went into a laughing fit over a silly typo on twitter then I have even more pity for you.